MuggleCast 163 Transcript
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Andrew: And good morning, ladies and gentlemen! 9:30 a.m. here on a Friday morning here on the West Coast, and just a half an hour ago, Warner Brothers released a brand new Half-Blood Prince trailer. And surprised the fans. Isn’t that right, Matt Britton?
Matt: Yes, they did. Yup, yup, yup.
Andrew: We found out about it last night, but of course they wanted to make it a surprise to the fans. So here we are, a half hour later after the trailer came out. Of course this is a big surprise to the fans, and, frankly, this trailer is awesome.
Matt: Yeah, it is pretty – it’s pretty awesome awesome.
Andrew: Matt and I are here. Eric will be here later on, Micah will be calling in later on. And who knows, maybe a couple of surprises. Penny Gershman from HP Prognostications is going to be joining us very shortly. But right now I want to take some of your calls, because what has happened is, fans were completely surprised by this. It came out of the blue. So start calling in now. The number 1-218-20-MAGIC in the United States. If you’re in the United Kingdom or in Australia, you know the numbers: 020-781-44-0677 in the United Kingdom and in Australia 028-003-5668. So, right now, let’s get in here Penny Gersh from HP Prognostications. I’m going to call her via our little Skype tool.
[Matt hums along with music]
Andrew: Very exciting. Matt?
Andrew: What was…
Penny: Hey, guys!
Andrew: Hey, hello!
Matt: Penny, hey!
Andrew: Good morning.
Penny: What’s up?
Matt: Oh nothing, just watching the new Half-Blood Prince trailer.
Initial Reactions to Trailer
Andrew: Your initial reactions to the trailer?
Penny: Oh my gosh, I love it!
Penny: What can we say? I mean, it looks like everything that we wanted it to look. It’s – there’s dark, there’s light, it’s funny, it’s – I’m so excited. [laughs]
Andrew: Yeah, I know.
Andrew: Matt, what really stood out for you in this trailer?
Matt: Hermione’s hair.
Andrew: [laughs] Hermione’s…
Matt: It’s actually messy.
Andrew: I know!
Penny: Me too.
Andrew: You can’t help but notice. It was almost like obnoxiously sort of messy.
Matt: It was like – yeah. It was almost like, “You know what? Screw it. I’m going to make the fans happy.” And she just goes in the bathroom and just scrubs her hair.
Penny: Well, the thing is though, I’m wondering – I mean it’s not like that in the entire trailer, so I’m wondering if perhaps maybe there’s some kind of potions accident or something that made her hair like that.
Penny: Except what excited me though was that we always hear about how Hermione’s hair is so bushy, and we’ve never seen it, except for maybe in the first scene in the first movie.
Penny: So it’s exciting to actually finally see it.
Matt: But we only see it in that one scene. So – I mean – we know in the book that she get – that Hermione’s a little jealous of Harry, so maybe she was like up all night trying to study and trying to one-up Harry, and then she probably just didn’t have time to do her hair.
Penny: With the Felix Felicis or something.
Andrew: It is kind of – Penny, could – I don’t know of you saw my IM, but can you put on headphones, if you have some?
Penny: Yeah, you want to cut me off for a few minutes?
Penny: Because I had headphones on and then I couldn’t hear you guys, so…
Andrew: All right. So…
Matt: So, Andrew, what did you think about the trailer? I mean, what was your favorite part? What really stood out?
Andrew: The beginning. No, I have to say – well, you brought this up to me while we were talking when we first saw the trailer – the color in this is very – I want to say saturated?
Andrew: It just looks very warm…
Matt: It looks like an inkwell painting or something.
Andrew: Yeah. Well, it’s funny, because I guess we’re – in a way we’re comparing it to the trailer that leaked a few weeks ago.
Matt: But this one actually had all the CGI in it.
Andrew: Yeah, exactly. [laughs] The Quidditch, too, looks quite surprising, because there’s that one funny shot of Ron just like.
Andrew: He’s sort of like in X formation…
Andrew: …with his body. [laughs]
Matt: “Yeah!” That’s probably when he has the Felix Felicis.
Andrew: Do you think so?
Matt: Yeah, because he’s having a good time. It’s the only time we ever see him happy.
Andrew: Oh, that’s right.
Matt: Because he’s always nervous. But also in the Quidditch scene you can see Ginny.
Andrew: You can?
Matt: I never knew that was Ginny.
Matt: At the very end.
Andrew: Of what?
Matt: You see “Weasley.” If – when they’re all in formation, she’s the last person to join the crowd.
Matt: Yeah, it says “Weasley” and she has long red hair.
Call: Comic Relief
Andrew: Sasha, good morning, you’re on MuggleCast Live.
Caller: Oh, hold on, let me just mute first.
Andrew: Oh, thank you.
Caller: I just wanted to say that I’m really happy with this trailer. I think…
Caller: …compared with some of the other ones this one has so much comic relief than all the trailers for the other movies…
Caller: …and I think it’s really great for such a serious film that I was expecting it to be.
Matt: Yeah, I agree with you, it is a good balance.
Andrew: Question though. I want your reaction though. When you first heard or saw that there was a new trailer, how did you react?
Caller: I was jumping up and down.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Caller: I was really, really excited.
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.
Caller: I mean, it’s been really slow with the news and everything with Harry Potter.
Andrew: Yeah, exactly, exactly.
Caller: About time for a trailer.
Andrew: Yeah. All right, Sasha. Thank you.
Matt: Thank you so much, Sasha.
Caller: Yeah, you too.
Andrew: All right, bye.
The Trailer Was a Surprise
Andrew: All right, Penny, you’re back. Penny, we were just talking about how much of a surprise it was.
Penny: The trailer in general?
Andrew: Yeah. What were your reactions when I told you?
Penny: That they brought it now?
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah.
Penny: Okay. Well, first of all, my first reaction was that this movie is coming out in July, so it’s still once again, as much as we – you know – we thought this was going to happen by the end of this month, it’s a really long time away, so that was my first reaction of, “I’m excited, but once again, this kills me because we’re not going to see the movie until July.”
Penny: Also, because we had just had that leaked trailer a few weeks ago, I was sort of surprised that this one came out. I don’t know if you guys felt that same way.
Andrew: Me too, but here’s the big thing with this trailer. [laughs] This really brings it full circle. They’re releasing it – they’re putting it in front of Twilight, which is kind of funny.
Andrew: And when we were told about this yesterday, I was on the phone with WB, and I was like, “So you going to put something in the beginning of the trailer that’s like ‘Yeah, so you were supposed to see this movie with Twilight, but – or to see this movie today, but here’s a little trailer anyways. Sorry. LOLs.'” [laughs]
Penny: Yeah, and in some ways – in some ways it’s offensive to the Harry Potter fans, but in other ways, it’s great, especially for the ones who are going to go see it. I mean, how many of us are going to go see it the Twilight movie anyway?
Matt: Yeah, totally.
Penny: So many.
Penny: It’s – yeah, nobody. None. [laughs]
Andrew: I think…
Penny: Go ahead.
Andrew: I think this is a – quite frankly, a pure gift from Warner Brothers, because anyone seeing Twilight is not on the fence about seeing Harry Potter. You know everyone seeing Twilight is going to see Harry Potter, so why is WB doing this? I think, in a way, it’s to say, “Hey look, we’re sorry, you know, we delayed the movie, here’s a new trailer.”
Andrew: And I think that’s great.
Penny: Can you imagine what the fans’ reaction’s going to be when they go in for Twilight and they first see this trailer?
Andrew: [laughs] I know.
Matt: Oh, I would – I would laugh my freaking butt off if that happens.
Penny: It’s going to be amazing.
Andrew: Yeah. And if [laughs] they’ll like the trailer so much, they’ll be like “Oh, crap, I wish this came out before Twilight.”
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Penny: Hopefully Twilight will be able to live up to the trailer, but that’s another discussion.
The Focus on Slughorn
Andrew: …that is. This trailer had a pretty heavy focus on Slughorn. It was only a minute – what, about a minute and a half?
Andrew: And there was a big focus on Slughorn and Ron. Matt, what’d you think of that?
Matt: Of what? I’m sorry.
Andrew: Just the big focus of Slughorn and Ron.
Matt: The Slughorn? Well, I mean, it’s about time. It’s the one character that we really introduce, and I think it was needed.
Matt: I mean, it’s not really heavily focused, we just see – the only reason why you probably think it’s heavily focused is because you actually hear them introduce him in the trailer. Like, this is Professor Slughorn.
The End of the Trailer
Matt: What I really like about this trailer though, is that there’s no narration; it’s Dumbledore speaking over everything. It just seems a little more dramatic that way, I think.
Andrew: Yeah, definitely. What also I thought was interesting – this is just a random thing, but it was an initial reaction sort of thing. At the end of this trailer – you know with the trailer that leaked, at the end there’s that very last clip: “Well, I am the Chosen One.” At the end of this trailer there’s music, and it just sort of trails off, and you’re expecting a clip at the end. But…
Andrew: But then it just goes pfft, July.
Penny: I had the exact same thought, exactly.
Matt: Oh, it’s like, you tease!
Penny: You know what? In some cases I think it’s more powerful this way. The last trailer was so serious, and then you got that last clip thing, and then it shows the – that, “I’m the Chosen One” clip, and it’s almost just sort of like a letdown.
Penny: After that one.
The Half-Blood Prince
Matt: The very last clip, though, you see, right before Harry Potter, is Snape conjuring some spell that has some green stuff coming out.
Andrew: Oh! I got so excited when I saw Snape in this trailer. [laughs] He looks…
Penny: One that I just realized is there’s still no mention of the Half-blood Prince or anything having to do with that plot-line.
Andrew: You’re right, yeah.
Andrew: But, I mean, there are some really cool shots in this trailer.
The Cave Scene
Matt: Yeah. We get to see the Inferi.
Andrew: Crawling up to Dumbledore! I mean, oh my God! That’s so cool! What’s the time code on that?
Matt: Oh, I’m on QuickTime, so it doesn’t have a time code.
Andrew: Oh. Okay. Right. 1:33. You see these guys crawling out of the lake up to Dumbledore. Oh man, is that cool.
Matt: It’s kind of…
Andrew: And then there’s the shot of Harry grabbing on to Dumbledore’s hand.
Andrew: And Harry protecting Dumbledore. Oh man!
Matt: It’s pretty freaking sweet.
Andrew: It’s really great.
Matt: Can we talk about for a second how sad it was – I mean, we only saw it for a clip – but Hermione crying.
Andrew: Oh yeah! [laughs]
Matt: Was it – that was a good cry.
Andrew: Yeah, I’m laughing – go ahead, Penny.
Penny: I completely disagree with you there.
Penny: I think that – I thought that – I think that it looked like – I think that it could potentially be a powerful clip, but I thought that Emma Watson just didn’t pull off crying.
Andrew: I couldn’t help but laugh a little bit. I agree with Penny there. [laughs] The laughing is – I mean I guess we don’t know the context of it, though, so we don’t know…
Matt: Well, I’m looking at it in HD and her eyes are all red.
Andrew: If this is where Dumbledore died or something, then I’ll be crying along with her… [laughs] …because – I don’t know. You don’t feel for her, Penny?
Penny: Oh, I completely feel for her, I just don’t…
Matt: I don’t…
Penny: …like her…
Matt: I don’t think her – this is – oh, sorry, Penny!
Penny: No, go ahead.
Matt: I don’t think this is the death of Dumbledore. I think this is when she gets upset with Ron.
Penny: I was actually trying to figure that out, because she’s wearing that little Hogwarts t-shirt…
Matt: The Gryffindor tee, yeah.
Andrew: Yeah, it’s a little dressed-down thing.
Penny: Pajamas? It might have been pajamas or something, I don’t know.
Matt: But, then again, everyone was in pajamas when the Death Eaters stormed the castle.
Penny: Right, that’s what I was thinking.
Matt: Huh. I just don’t know.
Andrew: Yeah, because I guess if it was when Dumbledore died, she may have been dressed in something a little nicer.
Penny: No! Because it was the middle of the night, wasn’t it?
Andrew: There’s no what?
Matt: It was in the middle of the night.
Penny: Yeah, it was the middle of the night.
Andrew: No – oh, sorry, I’m meaning before the funeral. How about the shot of Snape turning around and seeing Draco, and – I don’t know who those are down there – attacking Hagrid’s hut.
Matt: It’s Bellatrix conjuring the fire. On the left.
Andrew: On Hagrid’s hut?
Matt: Yes, see her on the left?
Andrew: Oh! Oh yeah, damn, you can hardly see her. And finally, we’re also seeing shots of Millennium Bridge, which they were filming at a few weeks ago. Sorry, what am I saying? Over a year ago they were filming at Millennium Bridge and we had countless amounts of pictures and such.
Matt: It’s very sombre music too, during the trailer. It’s – you hear a piano being played the entire time.
Andrew: Yeah. I don’t know.
Matt: It’s awesome. I hate these trailers; they just get me too excited.
Matt: Well, the Harry Potter trailers; they’re like the best trailers of any movie franchise I’ve ever seen.
Matt: But, it just gets me too excited, and I have to wait another five months.
Andrew: Yeah, well, Eric’s going to be joining…
Penny: Longer than five months.
Andrew: What’s that, Penny?
Penny: It’s longer than five months.
Andrew: Eric’s going to be joining us soon. And yeah, like – the thing is, whenever you get these trailers, yeah, you do get excited, but then I can’t help but think, “Oh, people already saw this.” And like their excitement is sort of already over.
Matt: Well, Eric’s going to tell us if there’s any change.
Matt: Because I – I don’t think that the whole CGI part, with the – with the memory at the – at the orphanage when
Dumbledore was walking, I don’t think they had that inkwell effect.
Andrew: What’s the inkwell effect?
Matt: You see – it’s just like all these little – smoke coming out from everyone.
Matt: Everywhere. I – because that wasn’t in the trailer. Or in the teaser trailer. That – it was just pure black
Ron as Comic Relief
Andrew: Yeah. And what did you guys think of – does Ron do the “in love” thing a lot, or are we going to get sick of
it throughout the movie?
Penny: Yeah, my question was, in the first four movies, Ron was used as comic relief all the time.
Penny: And then the fifth one I thought they did a really good job transferring that to that Nigel kid…
Penny: …and Ron was able to be a little more serious. And I’m a little bit nervous that they’re going to go back to using him…
Penny: …as comic relief.
Matt: Well, we really only see him in that one scene where he is under the Felix Felicis.
Matt: So I don’t think that was really fair of them to give that one shot of him for us.
Andrew: And, oh, and then we actually see Luna with her Spectre…
Andrew: …things. Which look…
Penny: They look awesome.
Andrew: Yeah, they did.
Matt: They look amazing.
Andrew: They look so cool.
Matt: I’m really excited that they – that they added the gargoyles in front of the castle. Those will just be so
much more awesome for the big battle in Deathly Hallows.
Andrew: Why? Do you think they’re going to come to life? But, I mean, the way – they change things in this movie very frequently.
Matt: But they’d never done that before. I mean, they’ve never shown the gargoyles at the entrance gate.
Slughorn and Young Tom Riddle
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. I liked the flashback of Slughorn when he’s talking to young Tom Riddle, correct?
Matt: Where he tells him to get out?
Penny: Didn’t he…
Matt: “It’s a lie!”
Andrew: It like – no, go ahead, Penny.
Penny: In the book, wasn’t – didn’t he originally give a messed up memory he – changed the memory, correct?
Penny: So do you think they’re going to do it like that?
Andrew: I think so because doesn’t Dumbledore say in this…
Andrew and Matt: “Its a lie.” Yeah.
Penny: Yeah, right. Okay.
Andrew: “It’s a lie!”
Matt: Yeah, because it’s – it ends right when he says, “Get out.”
Penny: I honestly haven’t watched it enough times to really…
Andrew: I know.
Penny: …absorb it.
Andrew: I know. There’s so much – like…
Pacing of the Trailer
Andrew: As I watched – another initial reaction thing I had – as I’m watching the trailer, it sort of started off a little slow. Like in terms of clip-wise. But then as you start getting to the end, it picks up more and more and it’s like…
Matt: Well, thats what a typical trailer does though. I mean it just shows you a climatic – or as just as many
scenes as they can probably push in.
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. It’s really cool.
Matt: It’s really cool though. I just love that one scene where – that one shot with Harry and Hermione on Dumbledore’s office looking out to the Great Lake. It’s – I mean, I’m afraid its going to be another, “I’m scared for you” kind of scene, but it looks really nice. It’s just the whole saturation you said, Andrew, just about the way everything looks. It just looks – it looks really nice. I really – I’m really liking this.
Andrew: Yeah. And the music I thought was more epic than ever.
Matt: Yeah. It’s really nice. I really love the whole – the whole piano stuff they’ve been playing into it. Like right after – I think it was with – when Dumbledore and Harry go through – what is it called when – when you – when you transport?
Matt: Apparate! Thank God, oh geez. It’s still early. When Dumbledore and Harry Apparate, and they land in the office, there’s this little piano thing going on with really high pitched keys.
Matt: It’s just so cool. It’s just like – it’s like you’re just all stepping into this huge epic story.
Penny: Yeah, and I think it definitely feels more powerful than any of the other ones before, and I think that – and obviously that’s very symbolic for what’s happening in this one. Especially because Half Blood Prince and Deathly Hallows were really, you know, two parts of one story.
Penny: And you know – and that really just – it’s the climax of the story.
Matt: Yeah. So basically, this is like part one of the three-part story.
Matt: Because you get introduced to all the Deathly Hallows and then it just all goes out from there.
Matt: Or not the Deathly Hallows, the Horcruxes.
Penny: [unintelligible] …Horcrux, didn’t we?
Andrew: You’re a movie ahead.
Matt: Yeah. I’m sorry, I’m just really excited for the next movie.
Andrew: I feel like calling Ben or someone and pranking them into thinking like – just be like: “Ben, we just got this trailer and at the end it says November 21st.” And then, “Warner Brothers surprised everyone and said that the movie actually is coming out November 21st.”
Matt: They wouldn’t believe that.
Andrew: I think he would.
Matt: No, he wouldn’t.
Andrew: I think he would.
Matt: No, he wouldn’t.
Andrew: But he’d be cursing too much. [laughs] We obviously can’t put that on.
[Andrew and Matt laughs]
Matt: Isn’t it cool, though, we got to see Seamus get exploded again? It’s been a couple of movies.
Matt: I thought it was really cute.
Penny: It’s come full circle, sort of.
Matt: Yeah. It’s like, “We’re going to bring back a couple things that you loved from the other films.”
Matt: What do you think about the Death Mark? Above the castle? It’s a little different…
Andrew: Dark Mark?
Matt: The Dark Mark. You know what? I fail.
Call: The Death Eaters
Andrew: Let me try – hold on – let me try one more call. Karen, good morning. You’re on MuggleCast Live.
Caller: Hey, guys!
Andrew: Hey! What’s going on?
Caller: Not much. I can only talk for a minute because I have to go to class, but it was really awesome.
Andrew: Isn’t it?
Matt: Isn’t it?
Andrew: What was your reaction when you found out that the trailer was online?
Caller: I was kind of in disbelief and then I like clicked it and I wanted to wait for the whole thing to load before I watched it because I didn’t want it to stop in the middle…
Caller: …but then it was taking – because I clicked like one of the really big ones – and so it took like a minute to load and so I was getting so nervous, and then I watched it, and it was amazing.
Andrew: Right. [laughs] Yeah. It’s very exciting. So you have class or something in a few minutes or something?
Caller: Yeah, I can talk for like a minute though.
Andrew: Oh, okay. Well, when you go to class are you going to be spreading the word? Because I mean this was WB’s…
Andrew: …intention. They need – wanted a big boom. A big “Oh my God.”
Andrew: Was there anything else that stood out in the trailer for you?
Caller: I thought it was really awesome how they had all the black smoke everywhere, and then they had – when they had all the black smoke like going through London, were those Dementors? Or were those Death Eaters, do you think?
Matt: Those are Death Eaters, I think.
Andrew: Yeah, I think so too.
Matt: Yeah. Which is kind of bothering me, because why would they do that when the Muggles never really saw anything? I thought the Death Eaters were like in the crowd when it happened.
Andrew: Anyway, any other reactions, Karen?
Caller: I’m just going to be kind of a nerd here and say that the design on the back of The Quibbler is kind of amazing.
[Andrew and Karen laugh]
Matt: Isn’t it?
Caller: Because I watched it in ridiculous high quality.
Matt: You can see the big 3-D thing coming out. It’s so cool.
Andrew: They should print legit Quibblers or something.
Matt: I think that’d be really cool.
Caller: They totally should.
Andrew: Yeah, to promote the movie and hand them out at theaters or something like that.
Penny: I’m sure they will.
Andrew: That’d be very cool. Yeah. All right, Karen, thank you. And for everyone who doesn’t know – I don’t know if we ever said this, I think we did – but Karen designed our excellent Portus shirts, but we had a Portus printing shirt problem so that never turned out. But, Karen, thanks for doing that for us.
Matt: Aw, thanks, Karen.
Andrew: We’re sorry it didn’t work out. All right, well thanks for calling in, Karen.
Caller: Mhm. Talk to you guys later.
Matt: Have fun in class.
Andrew: Okay, bye.
Andrew: Thank goodness I did not have class today. Penny, do you have class today?
Penny: Do I have class today? Do I have work today?
Penny: No, I only work the beginning of the week.
Andrew: Oh okay. Shivani, good morning. You’re on MuggleCast Live.
Andrew: Hi. How are you?
Caller: I’m good.
Andrew: What was your initial reactions to the trailer?
Caller: I was blown away. I was actually studying for a physics exam I have today so I had no idea I’d see a trailer.
Matt: [laughs] God, physics.
Caller: So that was amazing.
Caller: I actually wanted to bring up that one scene on the tower where Bellatrix conjures the Dark Mark.
Caller: Because when I – from what I remember, she’s not supposed to be there.
Andrew: Why wasn’t she supposed to be there? Just because she was hiding? I’m forgetting.
Caller: Well, on the tower, isn’t it just Malfoy, Fenrir Greyback…
Matt: Is that even the Astronomy Tower?
Andrew: It must be.
Caller: It has to be Hogwarts.
Andrew: Yeah, because Fenrir’s there. Isn’t he in that shot there?
Matt: Oh yeah.
Andrew: [burps] Excuse me. [laughs] You know what? WB makes these subtle changes just to make it work with the plot more, so maybe that was why. I mean, in all honesty, it does look pretty, in Mikey’s words, “epic” to see her casting it from atop the tower, don’t you think?
Caller: Right, but do you think that will change anything with the fact that Snape is supposed to be there and she’s not supposed to be know like the full details of that?
Andrew: That’s true.
Matt: Well, Snape’s not there though. Maybe this is afterwards, after the fight, and she could have climbed up on the Astronomy Tower and that’s how they left or something.
Andrew: In the…
Matt: Because I don’t remember Bellatrix – does Bellatrix leave with Snape?
Caller: At the very end, yes.
Matt: Oh, geez.
Andrew: The way I always pictured it in the book – weren’t they on the top top? Like there wasn’t even sort of like a cove like this. It wasn’t like a window looking out. Wasn’t it on top where you could just – like there was no walls?
Matt: Mmm, no.
Andrew: Isn’t that how it’s illustrated in the book?
Matt: I don’t think so. I don’t think so. I don’t know.
Matt: The very top of the Astronomy Tower? Where Dumbledore got killed?
Matt: Well, no. Dumbledore got thrown through the window, I think.
Andrew: Was it? Because when I read the book, I always pictured it as being the very top. Because they were looking out with binoculars – sorry, telescopes.
Matt: Yeah, you’re right.
Andrew: I don’t know.
Matt: I don’t know.
Andrew: All right.
Caller: Yeah, I thought he fell over, I guess, the battlements or something. I think he just fell right over. There wasn’t a window.
Andrew: Yeah, that’s what I thought too. All right, well, Shivani, thank you for calling in. Oh, and what was your initial reaction when you came online and you saw it?
Caller: Surprise, completely. I thought – we just got the leaked trailer not long ago, so it’s kind of a shocker to have like two trailers so soon.
Andrew: Yeah, exactly. Well, it’s very exciting, and, Shivani, you have a good day.
Caller: You too. Thank you.
Andrew: Bye. All right, there was Shivani who enjoyed the trailer very much. If you do want to call in and get your opinions here on the show, our phone-line doesn’t seem to be working, so use the MuggleCast Skype name. It’s just MuggleCast, and you Skype call it. The number does not seem to be working. If you are just joining us, there’s 160 people now, and when we first started the show there was like 50. Of course, the Half-Blood Prince trailer was released this morning by surprise to all Harry Potter fans, and everyone was very excited, including our next caller, Sophie. Good morning.
Call: Hermione’s Hair
Caller: Hey, what’s up?
Andrew: Hey, what’s up? You were…
Andrew: …surprised – plug in your headphones or something so there’s no feedback, please.
Caller: I turned down the volume.
Andrew: Oh perfect, even better.
Andrew: So your reaction: You go online, you see a headline, “New Half-Blood Prince Trailer.” How do you react?
Matt: What goes on through your mind?
Andrew: What goes through…
Caller: [laughs] Oh my gosh, I was so excited. I got your guys’ update on Facebook.
Andrew: Oh, perfect. I knew those were handy! I never knew if anyone was looking at them. [laughs] Well that’s great.
Caller: Yeah, so immediately I logged onto MuggleCast, and I was downloading the HD one, so that sort of took awhile, but it amped me up. I was ready.
Andrew: It’s worth it right? The HD quality?
Caller: Yeah, it was amazing, I loved it.
Caller: It was so much better than the last two.
Andrew: Oh my God.
Matt: Yeah. I have to say, there’s no fire in this. I’m so relieved.
Andrew: No, there is. There’s the shot of Dumbledore.
Matt: But not as much.
Andrew: Oh, oh I get it. [laughs]
Matt: Not in every other scene.
Andrew: If you count the fireplace shots and stuff, there is a good amount of fire. I’m just kidding.
Andrew: Anyway, Sophie, was there anything that really stuck out to you or anything?
Caller: I really liked the Hermione and the frizzy hair. I know you guys already talked about that.
Caller: I appreciated seeing it. I think everyone else did too.
Andrew: That’s the news of the day, isn’t it?
Caller: [laughs] Everyone’s freaking out.
Andrew: Anyway, Penny and Sophie, Matt and I, quite honestly, we don’t have long hair. We don’t know how to manage that. Sophie, by your Skype picture, it looks like you do have long hair.
Andrew: What do you think it took for them to do that, and why do you think it’s taken so long?
Caller: I don’t know. Like personally, with my hair, that would never happen, because it doesn’t work like that.
Andrew: [laughs] Are you saying Hermione had a bad hair day?
Caller: Maybe. She might have woken up on the wrong side of the bed.
Caller: I don’t know, but it must have taken probably like an hour to get it that frizzy.
Penny: They could just have stuck a ton of spray in her hair while it was wet, and she woke up and it was frizzy like that.
Matt: Or blew up like five balloons and started just rubbing it against her hair.
Penny: I don’t think this was like a major CGI effect or anything that we’re dealing with.
Matt: I don’t know. Her hair is pretty pixelated.
Caller: I also want to say, I love Harry and Ginny. Finally like a bit longer of a scene with them maybe?
Caller: Still not focusing on them very much.
Penny: No, they’re not, and I just also hope that like within Order of the Phoenix, the way that they did Cho’s kiss was you almost thought that he was going to end up with Cho, and there was such drama leading up to it.
Andrew: Oh yeah.
Penny: I really hope that they do a decent job with the Ginny one, because that’s the one that’s important.
Caller: I hope that they have really good chemistry, because I know she really played like the little awkward-in-love-with-him girl really well, but I’m excited to see how she’s going to play the actual girlfriend.
Andrew: Yeah, back very quickly to this bushy hair. If you look at the shot, Seamus is also like pretty scruffed up, so maybe there was like some sort of like explosion or something and that’s why her hair is bushy. [laughs]
Matt: Yeah, maybe.
Penny: Unfortunately, though.
Caller: I think you just have a thing for this bushy hair.
Andrew: Yeah, I do.
Andrew: What can I say?
Matt: Well, maybe she had to look different by comparison because Lavender’s on the other side of Ron.
Andrew: That’s true too. Lavender’s…
Penny: But then they shouldn’t have given Lavender Brown curly hair, but…
Matt: Or blonde.
Andrew: She’s got the bow to differentiate I guess.
Penny: Yeah, but have you seen how many comments on YouTube for the last trailer? People have been going crazy about “Ron and Hermione kissing,” and I’m like …
Caller: I know, they totally did that on purpose.
Penny: …no, that’s not her.
Andrew: I don’t think they realized what they were doing actually. [laughs]
Caller: I think they’re trying to play up like if you haven’t read the books, you’re going to be like a dumb fan and be like, “Oh my god, Ron’s kissing Hermione!”
Matt: Yeah, it’s like, “Oh you’re a fan of the movies, you’re not a fan of the books.”
Caller: Exactly. [laughs]
Andrew: Sex sells.
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Ron’s X Formation
Penny: Which brings us to the – can we talk about it? That Ron scene on the broom?
Andrew: What? What about it exactly? [laughs]
Penny: It made me really uncomfortable. [laughs]
Andrew: Just that his position? His X formation?
Penny: Yeah. Just take a look at it.
Caller: I thought it looked adorable.
Matt: Yeah, we’ve seen it. I’ve seen it.
Andrew: Sophie thinks he looks adorable.
Caller: I do.
Matt: He looks…
Caller: Me and my friends are really happy that we’re finally seeing him playing Quidditch. [laughs]
Andrew: Yeah. The CGI looks a lot better too compared to other films, and I was saying this the last live show, they didn’t have Quidditch in Movie 5, so hopefully they would have upped the quality of the Quidditch CGI-wise, and it certainly looks like they’ve done that.
Caller: Yeah, it [unintelligible].
Andrew: Plus it’s snowing, which gives it a nice effect. It makes the – the snow really makes the Quidditch players stand out a lot too and as they’re playing, because it’s white against the red.
Caller: And also with the CGI, the Apparition looks amazing.
Andrew: It’s very cool.
Matt: Yeah. I really like it.
Caller: Really like bendy. I don’t even know what that is. [laughs]
Andrew: Well, it’s sort of like – I have to replay it again. I have to find it.
Matt: I keep thinking like, it looks like a straw just sucking them all up.
Caller: Yeah, yeah.
Andrew: Yeah, here, I found it. It’s about – oh geez, I don’t even know what I’m looking at now. I think I passed it. It’s about fifteen – yeah here we go – fifteen seconds in. Just grabs the arm. Yeah, it’s like a straw. It’s kind of cool.
Andrew: It’s sort of like a transition you would see in iMovie when the video gets sucked into the center.
Andrew: The transition. I don’t even know if any of you guys have seen that in iMovie HD, but there’s lots of that. All right, well, Sophie, thank you for calling in.
Caller: You’re welcome.
Andrew: All right. And, Sophie, I can’t hang up on you so feel free to hang up on me.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Caller: Good to talk to you.
Andrew: Good talking to you too. Oh geez.
Matt: You know what? We get to see Fenrir Greyback too. His full-on face in this trailer.
Andrew: Yeah. What do you think about it? I mean, we sort of saw it.
Matt: He looks all – yeah, but there’s actually light showing on his face.
Andrew: He’s scary.
Matt: Yeah, he’s not a very attractive man.
Andrew: [laughs] He’s not supposed to be either.
Matt: Yeah, well, you know, it’s all…
Andrew: Is he wearing a tie? What is that thing? I’m looking at 1:34.
Matt: Yeah, I’m at it too. I think he’s shirtless.
Andrew: Oh, that’s right. That’s his hair. Duh.
Matt: [laughs] Bushy hair.
Andrew: They should have made him sort of like the Joker character. You know how Dark Knight, Joker was this crazy guy?
Matt: You want him to cut his lips?
Andrew: No! [laughs] No, but just like insane somehow.
Matt: Well maybe. I mean, we haven’t seen anything from him. All we see him is just turning to the side a little bit.
Andrew: Yeah. True, true.
Penny: Wait, is that him though? And I don’t have anything time stamped, but in – it must be – I think it must be near the Burrow scene probably, but there’s somebody just in the middle of all these high, tall grass.
Matt: Yeah, that’s him.
Andrew: In this new trailer?
Penny: That’s right?
Matt: Flicking off this white spell.
Penny: Yeah, is that what it is?
Penny: He almost looks like he’s got like a Klingon forehead a little bit. Do you see that?
Matt: It’s his hair. I mean, his whole face is pretty much covered with hair. I think that’s what it is.
Andrew: What’s the time stamp of that, Matthew?
Matt: It’s a 1:34.
Andrew: Oh, I see. Maybe they forgot to put makeup on his wig to cover the seams so that’s what – doesn’t it sort of look like a hair net? Like, at the cafeteria?
Penny: I will say that he does look scary, which is good.
Matt: Yeah, he does not look like someone I want to hang out with.
Andrew: Fenrir the lunch lady.
Matt: He has a huge gash between his left nostril all the way down to his chin.
Andrew: Yeah, so he is kind of Joker-like. I know that sounds weird, but…
Matt: Oh, it’s not a gash it’s just – just a something – a piece of hair on the film or something.
Penny: It might be a piece of blood also. I think I remember in the book it said that he smelled of blood and…
Andrew: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew: There’s another Joker comparison. Joker loves blood. Sorry, I just miss Dark Knight a lot right now.
Andrew: Penny, how would this trailer rank in your opinion of the top trailers? Of the Half-Blood Prince trailers, and then we’ll go round the table about favorite trailers overall.
Penny: This is definitely my – I mean – you can’t compare this without these two because it’s a trailer, not a teaser, first of all.
Penny: And I think they just did a great job, really just getting a lot of the movie.
Andrew: Absolutely. Oh, I guess it’s my turn. [Andrew laughs] I think – yeah, this is my favorite too. And I have to say, the first trailer, the teaser trailer, left such a mood. It had such a theme to it. But this one is more of the classic trailer that we all like to see with tons of different action, whether it’s love and lust. And, Matt, you said this is your favorite trailer too?
Matt: I – well, no I didn’t, but yeah, it is.
Andrew: Well, you said it’s one of yours. Eric!
Andrew: Good morning, Eric.
Matt: Hello, Eric.
Eric: Good morning! Good morning, Matt! Good morning, Andrew! Good morning, Penny!
Eric Joins the Show
Andrew: Hold on. Hold on, let me call you. Sorry, I did that by accident, I’m sorry. [laughs] Geez. Eric is now joining us via Skype. Hi, Eric.
Andrew: Eric, I don’t know if you’ve heard, but the new trailer came out this morning.
Andrew: Have you watched it yet?
Eric: No I have not. I have just gotten home.
Andrew: Technically, though, you could say yes because you’ve already seen the movie.
Eric: …it’s the way they splice them.
Eric: It’s not the scenes.
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah. And for any of you who doesn’t know, Eric was lucky enough to catch a screening of Half-Blood Prince… [laughs] …it’s so weird to say, two months ago. It was two months ago, right? About two months ago?
Eric: Guys, you have it in a zip it’s so big?
Andrew: That’s what WB gave it to us as.
Eric: Dude, that’s awesome.
Andrew: Look at the Quicktime versions. Those aren’t zipped.
Matt: Geez. [unintelligible] is just amazing.
Eric: Okay. So what have you seen? I mean, what…
Matt: Oh, we’ve seen the whole movie so far. I mean, it has everything.
Eric: I mean, overall, what’s your one word impression of this trailer?
Andrew: Adrenaline. Yeah, towards the end – Matt and I were watching it together, and towards the end it really picks up and you start getting really excited.
Andrew: It’s like BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! BOOM!
Matt: And my essential reaction I can’t really say because we’re live and it’s censored, but let’s just say I said every word in the Bible. And in the dictionary.
Eric: Wow. That must have taken you like a bajillion hours.
Andrew: Yeah. I must have been really focused because I didn’t hear a single one.
Eric: Hmm. Well, it is loading here, this MOV. How long is it?
Andrew: It’s about a minute and a half.
Matt: It’s about a minute and forty-five seconds.
Andrew: Yes. Now let’s get some more callers in. Guys, please call in, username Skype. For some reason our phone numbers aren’t working, but Skype the username MuggleCast to get people’s reactions. Since this was a big trailer surprise, on MuggleNet I made a post along with the trailer post, I said tape your initial reactions, because those are always fun to watch. Nicole! Good morning! You’re on MuggleCast Live!
Call: The Music
Caller: Oh, that was a surprise. I didn’t think I would get through. [laughs]
Andrew: Oh trust me, there are not many calls coming in right now.
Matt: Everyone’s in class.
Caller: Yeah, I know, I’m lucky. I literally turned on the computer and I saw that it was on. It was amazing.
Andrew: Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so was that your initial reaction? Did you scream? Was there any sort of – did you pee your pants? What happened exactly?
Caller: Well, I was in my Corporate Accounting class, and I looked on Twitter, and I saw a thing announce it, and I go back to my room, and I literally had to read it like four times, I couldn’t believe it. I thought it was old or something.
Andrew: Nice, nice. Anything you want to discuss concerning the trailer?
Caller: I loved the music, especially the end. It’s just – “Hedwig’s Theme,” it just sounded different. Like it sounded more intense I think.
Andrew: Was there “Hedwig’s Theme” at the end?
Matt: At the very end. It’s always at the very end.
Andrew: I missed it. Hold on, hold on, let’s play it right now. I have that technology; we can do that. Hold on. Let’s listen. [pause] Apparently I don’t have the technology because it’s not working! [laughs]
Matt: Yeah, you definitely have that technology. Wow. [laughs]
Andrew: Oh wait, wait, I muted the trailer, that’s why. Shut up. Okay, hold on.
[Music starts loud]
Matt: Oh geez.
Matt: You already passed it.
Andrew: Shh. Oh I did?
Andrew: Oh gosh.
Matt: Do you want me to do it?
[Part of trailer plays]
Matt: [imitating Hermione] I’m scared for you.
Andrew: [imitating Harry] Fight back!
Matt: Here it is.
[“Hedwig’s Theme” plays]
Andrew: Oh man!
Andrew: That’s sick. I didn’t even notice that.
Penny: Yeah, I don’t know how I missed that.
Matt: That’s because I was screaming when it was happening.
Andrew: That’s like military style.
[Matt imitates the song]
Andrew: That was because I was too busy cleaning up my pee from my pants, I guess.
Matt: Oh, gross.
Andrew: Tend to spaz out when that happens. Well, Nicole, thank you for calling in.
Caller: Thanks for taking my call!
Andrew: You are so welcome. Have a good day.
Caller: You too.
Andrew: And there was Nicole, who peed her pants when she saw the trailer. Now here’s someone who was calling in earlier and I’m going to get him in now.
Matt: Eric, have you seen it yet?
Andrew: Eric’s on hold.
Andrew: Meaning it’s his fault, not mine. Okay. Michael’s missing his chance. Sorry, Michael. It’s about time that they mixed up the “Hedwig’s Theme” a little bit to match the…
Matt: They always mix it.
Andrew: They don’t make it like that.
Matt: Yeah, they do.
Andrew: They do the classic little piano or whatever they do.
Matt: Sometimes they do it. In the teaser trailers they do it. And like the other trailers – Prisoner of Azkaban did it, I think – no, no, not Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire and Order of the Phoenix.
Penny: I like how they give “Hedwig’s Theme” its own personality in each movie.
Andrew: Yeah, yeah.
Andrew: Mike, good morning, you’re on MuggleCast Live!
Andrew: Mike, good morning.
Andrew: Good morning, Mike. Mike, hello? Goodbye, Mike. [laughs] Let’s see. What else is there to discuss? For anyone just joining us, there is close to 200 people in here right now. The Half-Blood Prince trailer was just released this morning. Surprised the fans. This was the intention, and the trailer is going to be coming out with Twilight, ironically enough, on the same day Half-Blood Prince was scheduled to be released on November 21st. Michael, good morning, you’re on MuggleCast Live!
Call: Length of the Movie
Andrew: What is your reaction to the trailer?
Caller: Hey, how’s it going?
Andrew: Pretty good.
Caller: The trailer was really good. I’d like to know how much – do you guys know how long the movie’s going to be, actually?
Andrew: No. That would be a question for Eric, who has seemed to disappear, but I think they’re aiming for two and a half hours, isn’t that right?
Matt: I think I heard something like that, yeah.
Andrew: Yeah. So it’s going to be a little bit longer than these trailers.
Matt: Well, yeah, I – that’s usually the case. The trailers are usually shorter than the films.
Call: The Inkwell Effect
Andrew: Right. Let’s take another call. Anthony, good morning! You’re on MuggleCast Live.
Caller: Hey, how you doing?
Andrew: Pretty good.
Caller: Hey, I’m here.
Andrew: You are here, good morning! What was your initial reaction to the trailer?
Caller: How are you guys doing?
Andrew: Pretty good.
Caller: I thought it was pretty good. What did you guys think about the fog – what did you guys think about the fog sequence though? When Dumbledore was walking over to the orphanage?
Matt: Yeah, that’s what I was talking about too. Well, I used the inkwell effect, but fog works better than what I described, because they were confused.
Andrew: Yeah, the ink makes it – sorry, which scene are you talking about exactly?
Matt: The memories in the Pensieve.
Andrew: Oh. Yeah, it’s really cool because it matches…
Caller: When Dumbledore goes to the orphanage.
Andrew: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it’s really cool because it sort of sets the tone for a memory. Because in flashbacks previously, there hasn’t been – like in Chamber of Secrets, of course, that wasn’t a memory, but it was – it was like black and white, and I thought that was sort of a lame way to illustrate the flashback…
Matt: Well, in Goblet of Fire they didn’t even do that. He just fell into a room.
Andrew: Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that’s a very cool effect to give the people an impression that they’re in a memory.
Matt: Because it’s kind of fuzzy.
Caller: Did – in one section, it also looked like Bellatrix was casting the Dark Mark at Hogwarts. Did you guys see that?
Andrew: Yeah, we discussed that earlier. But a caller was saying she’s not supposed to be there. Do you have any sort of reaction to that? I mean…
Caller: You guys were talking a couple of months ago how Bellatrix was only casted for the beginning sequence with Snape, so I was kind shocked to see her at Hogwarts.
Caller: So I didn’t know if you guys had any insight as to that.
Andrew: Well, I was speculating that maybe that was just one of those things they had to change to go along with the plot a little more.
Andrew: I mean…
Penny: These are the people that put in the Burrow scene. I don’t think it’s going to – it’s that crazy to think that they put in Bellatrix into the scene.
Andrew: Right. Yeah. They’ve done some crazy…
Caller: Overall, I thought it was a great trailer.
Andrew: Definitely. Your favorite yet? Your most favorite?
Caller: Actually, yeah. It’s my favorite trailer out of all the movies, because it’s filled with everything. It’s got the love sequence, it’s got the horror sequence and everything later, so…
Eric: Got to say it’s definitely well balanced.
Andrew: Definitely. Eric, we had a caller in here a few minutes ago who was wondering how long the film is. Do you remember like the exact time?
Eric: No, and I’m sure it’s changed. Unfortunately, I don’t.
Andrew: Well, give us a ballpark. Two and a half hours?
Eric: Yeah, I don’t want to say.
Andrew: [laughs] What? Is it like a surprise? Is it going to be like five hours or something? Let’s put it this way: I had to pee three times.
Matt: Oh, we get to see the Death Eater siblings in the trailer as well. Along with Bellatrix and Fenrir.
Penny: The Carrows?
Matt: Yeah, the Carrows. Yeah, because there’s a female Death Eater and a male Death Eater too with them. They were both in that scene when they killed Dumbledore.
Eric: Gosh, can I just say how good it is to see an actual official released trailer?
Andrew: I know! Really.
Eric: My gosh! In High Definition. Come on!
Andrew: In like thirty different formats.
Eric: Oh my God! That’s amazing!
Matt: No lightening inserted in anything.
Eric: Yeah. No creepy lightening shot.
Micah Faxes in His Input
Andrew: I just received a faxed statement from Micah Tannenbaum in the MuggleNet – MuggleCast news office. He says, “I think it was more all-inclusive than the last trailers. Showed more of the sex and comedic side that we heard about in previous reports, and it’s nice we’ve finally moved on to something of substance for the sixth film before we start getting DH news.” That was an official statement from Micah Tannenbaum.
Matt: Well, thank you, Micah.
Eric: Whoa, whoa, whoa. Sex?
Matt: Can we send him like a fruit basket or something?
Andrew: Yeah, we should’ve proofread that. I don’t know about that word “sex.”
Eric: Hang on, sex? But that’s what Micah said, right? Sex.
Andrew: But – yeah. But David Heyman has described this movie as “sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll.” Your thoughts, Eric?
Eric: [laughs] Well, I guess if David Heyman said it, there’s got to be sex in this movie. I…
Andrew: [laughs] Would you disagree with that?
Eric: Well, no, not exactly, but, I mean, romance, you know, there are so many different ways of saying it. Micah just faxed in his brutal analysis there, and…
Andrew: Yeah. Well, it’s not brutal.
Matt: It’s not sex, it’s sex appeal.
Andrew: Yeah, that’s what he was talking about. [laughs] This isn’t Harry Potter X-rated.
Call: Ron’s In Love
Andrew: Let’s get another caller in here. Katie, good morning. You’re on MuggleCast Live. Hello, Katie.
Matt: Good morning, Katie. Afternoon.
Matt: Hi! There she is.
Andrew: How are you?
Caller: Oh, I’m doing all right! I didn’t expect anyone to pick up.
Andrew: Hey, no problem. But listen. You were just surprised by the trailer this morning. Your initial reactions when you saw that the trailer, a brand new trailer. Your reaction, please.
Caller: Well, actually, I just got a text message from my friend. She was all like, “Hey, check it out, there’s a new trailer,” so I just got finished watching it.
Caller: I like it. I burst out laughing at the part with Ron, when he’s under the love potions – like, “have you actually met her?” He’s like, “No…” [laughs]
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, exactly.
Andrew: Go ahead.
Caller: No, go ahead.
Andrew: I was just going to say, any other reactions to the trailer? What – is this your favorite one yet, or what? You are speaking for the fans. Represent them well, please.
Caller: [laughs] I’d say probably my favorite one so far. There was so much happening, and I’ve only watched it twice, so I’ll probably have to watch it again to get… [laughs] …get a better gage on it.
Caller: But what I saw, I liked.
Caller: Same as always, I can’t wait to see that.
Andrew: Definitely. Did – did – what was I going to say? Oh. Does this make you any more excited for the film, or has it changed your thoughts about the film? Or what?
Caller: Oh, more excited than ever, definitely.
Andrew: All right, Katie. Well, thank you for calling in.
Caller: Well, thank you! You guys have a great day.
Andrew: Thanks, you too. Bye!
Andrew: And again…
The Dumbledore Debate Continues
Matt: How epic is it when Dumbledore says, “It is also a lie!”
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah!
Matt: It’s like, whoa, geez! [laughs]
Penny: Did you guys talk about Dumbledore when I was on hold or anything?
Andrew: Not really.
Matt: No. We can…
Andrew: What were your…
Matt: Your thoughts on Dumbledore, please, Penny.
Penny: [laughs] Sorry, but, to me – because I have never been a Gambon fan, so…
Andrew: Oh, yeah.
Penny: Could we talk about that?
Andrew: Yeah, it’s time for our weekly Has-Gambon-Changed-At-All talk. [laughs] Let’s get into that.
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, what do you think of him, Penny? I mean, do you think he’s changed in this trailer, or what?
Penny: I think he’s changed, and hopefully he’ll continue to change, but I still just don’t think he’s Dumbledore.
Penny: I think one big thing that I’ve always loved about Dumbledore, especially in Half-Blood Prince, which is I think my favorite book, is that he’s just got that vulnerability, especially at the end.
Penny: And I just don’t see Gambon playing it.
Eric: Ooh. Ooh, ooh. Can I chime in?
Matt: Sure, why not?
Eric: Okay, I got to say, Penny, I am totally with you on Michael Gambon. I too have not liked him at all in the past. He has had very, very, very precious few redeeming qualities. But in this movie, by the time the end credits close, you will have seen more of his dying, decaying hand and more vulnerable Dumbledore than you could possibly ever forget.
Matt: I – I’m kind of with him.
Eric: No, they – they do – in this movie, I don’t know why – I think it’s because he had this hand, that Michael Gambon was able to really sort of bring it forward. But I did get a pretty good sense – it made me a little bit happy to see a more – a weaker, sort of more vulnerable, as you put it, Dumbledore in this film. And it might still not be what many people would love, maybe not still Richard Harris, but in this trailer – yeah, in this trailer – this trailer might overlook it, but there is a lot of – a lot of vulnerability on the Michael Gambon side, and Dumbledore. And it’s a bit interesting that they – I’m looking at the very beginning of this trailer, and when they – when they Apparate. Did you guys talk about that special effect? Did you say…
Andrew: Yeah, it’s very cool, isn’t it?
Eric: They show it now. That’s – that’s – it was just awesome. To me that was straight out of the book.
Eric: The twisty-turny sort of – I don’t know, maybe that’s just me. But that line there, where Dumbledore asks Harry, you know, “Do you wonder why I brought you
here?” And Harry says, “After all these years you just sort of go with it”?
Eric: That is one of my complaints. Not that the line exists. Many people would probably be upset that the line exists, but I – I’m upset that they showed it in the trailer because the trailer by definition is zippy and has to condense everything. And that’s not – the scene they show when he says that, obviously it’s a voice over, he doesn’t say it in that sequence. It’s – I mean he responds to Dumbledore that way, but it just – they should have left it in the movie because it’s much slower pace. I don’t know, they were looking for an early punch line, maybe. But that’s my one complaint that that line – that line gets better treatment in the film. They should have just left it there.
Andrew: Well, yeah. And I have to say that this – I really do agree that Dumbledore is getting – Michael Gambon is getting where he should be. He does seem very
vulnerable in these trailers. Especially these end scenes where you see these people crawling up to him and you see Harry protecting him. He looks fantastic!
Eric: In the – you mean in the cave?
Eric: Yeah. The cave is pretty cool.
Andrew: Eric, now, here’s a very important question.
Is The Trailer Representative?
Andrew: Is this trailer representative of the movie? Because I don’t want to get excited that this going to be some action packed, amazing thing. The music always
hypes you up when you watch these trailers. Does this trailer live up to the hype of the movie? Does it represent it well?
Eric: Well, let me put it this way: I liked Movie 5, but I was with my girlfriend who hated Movie 5. And it’s got the same director, same script treatment, same everything. So it was interesting going into it. I loved and my girlfriend both loved this movie, and we hadn’t seen any of the completed special effects or many of them. And so you’re looking at the Quidditch and – or I’m looking at the Quidditch, and the cave scene, and the Inferi, and all of that stuff, and seeing all
these completed special effects. And I liked the movie without them, and so did my girlfriend, who didn’t like, along with many other people, David Yates’ flashes and montages in the previous films, which were not in this movie at all. This movie is so different of a movie, yet so awesome and true to the book. It’s probably the truest to the book, I think. It totally feels like it’s true to the book. It doesn’t feel like it’s skipping around.
Eric: It goes at a slow pace, but you’re able to – to feast your eyes on these wonderful effects which happen in Quidditch, and the Burrow scene, and the end
scene. The fight scene at Hogwarts looks amazing! Just from these tiny clips in the trailer. It’s – yes, I would say this trailer is not only representative
of the movie, but a darn – darn good one. I mean, WB must be sighing relief hearing – to hear all these fans now saying that it’s their favorite so far ever. I mean that’s just got to be a good feeling, because – and in my opinion, too, I share it, that this trailer is a success. It’s a win. It’s made of win…
Eric: …and is going to be exactly what they needed, I think.
Andrew: Yeah, and…
Matt: We have been talking with Eric Scull of the Behind the Scenes on the trailer in film.
The Trailer is a Sorry Gift
Andrew: This is WB’s gift to the fans, I think. It’s a sorry gift.
Eric: Well, it’s about time.
Andrew: Because it’s coming out…
Eric: It’s not only a sorry gift.
Andrew: Right, well, it’s coming…
Eric: Basically with…
Andrew: Yeah. Well – well, I say it’s a sorry gift because it’s coming out with Twilight, which comes out the same day that the Harry Potter
Andrew: Well really!
Penny: I think it’s a last ditch effort gift for them.
Andrew: I mean, yeah. [laughs]
Penny: I mean, not…
Andrew: Yeah. I mean, could that – wait, I mean, put it this way: what else could they have done that’s better? I mean, you know.
Eric: Well, right. If it is a last ditch effort.
Matt: More pre-screenings.
Andrew: More pre-screenings? [laughs]
Eric: At least it’s a successful effort, I think.
Andrew: One listener just IM-ed me over Skype chat and said it’s a lame sorry gift. But I don’t – I don’t know. I think this is a good gift!
Eric: Who’s going to still be mad? Who’s going to still be angry?
Matt: Yeah, the whole thing about angry about being delayed – that’s over with. Just – just accept it.
Andrew: Yeah. Well, you know – and what would be a better gift, like a scene? But I don’t want to see a scene. I want to see a trailer.
Matt: Yeah, I think…
Eric: I don’t want a scene too.
Matt: I really don’t want another trailer for a few months. I want to still be able to actually see the movie when it comes out or not. See everything with the TV spots and all the behind the scenes footage and all the ten million trailers they’re giving us.
The Harry-Ginny Kiss Scene
Andrew: Yeah. People also want us to discuss the kiss scene. The Harry-Ginny kiss scene. Right? Was it the Harry-Ginny? Yeah. It comes up very quickly and it’s
towards the end. I – what’s there to discuss? People in the chat, feel free to add some feedback. One listener said to me people who haven’t read the books will be
Matt: Well then, who cares?
Andrew: Which I guess is true.
Matt: Who honestly cares? If you haven’t seen – I mean, I’m tired of the movies trying to acclimate it towards people who haven’t read the books – can do that. Just understand.
Penny: They need to…
Matt: If they really want to get the movie, read the freaking book!
Penny: Yeah, and does this person mean that they’re going to be confused by the trailer or confused during the book?
Eric: During watching the movie, I think.
Penny: I mean, during the movie I mean.
Penny Why would they…
Eric: I think that’s what they mean. But yeah, I don’t know why either, because, to be honest, he does linger over Ginny for a while in the movie.
Eric: And it’s made quite clear. It – just because it doesn’t happen exactly like it does in the book. I mean, I think these people went and spoiled themselves on all those spoilerific – which were not mine – reviews of the pre-screening film and are all angry. I mean, to be honest, I watched this trailer just while I was on the show here, and I missed the Harry-Ginny scene
in the trailer the first time, completely. I didn’t even know it was in there, and then I was – I have it paused and I’m simply looking through scenes and I see that it is in there in whatever incarnation, but yeah, I don’t know what there is to talk about it.
Andrew: I don’t think people will be confused as much as they’ll be intrigued.
Andrew: I mean, so what? They’re – I mean, you know.
Eric: Bonnie Wright is intriguing.
Andrew: [laughs] Yes. Well, them staring at each other and going in for the kiss is intriguing. What’s up with this? Why is Bonnie going in for the – why is Ginny going in for the…
Andrew: …kiss? Why is Harry just standing still?
Eric: She’s more of a man than he is!
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, apparently!
Matt: She’s a Gryffindor, she’ll go for it.
Andrew: Well, I mean, I guess we’ll have to see the context around this one. Go ahead, Penny.
Penny: She’s also the more experienced one.
Matt: Oh yeah.
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah, I guess so!
Matt: She’s going out with everybody and their mom!
Eric: That’s true, you know, we needed a girl on to recognize that for what it was!
Eric: It’s experienced kissing.
Matt: Mhm. Well also, I think why people were kind of upset – because it was kind of a little too obvious that Harry liked Ginny. Was – that in the book, we only found all about that Harry kind of liked Ginny by inside his mind.
Matt: Because he never made it obvious, but the audience knew, so how can the audience know if they’re not, you know, reading from inside Harry’s mind?
Call: A Caller is Pleasantly Surprised
Andrew: Exactly. Let’s take another call now. Riviere, I think I got your name right? Good morning.
Caller: Yeah. How are you?
Andrew: I’m good. How are you?
Caller: I’m very glad to be on the show because I am from France, so I can usually never join your live chats.
Andrew: Oh, yes. We’re broadcasting nice and early this morning.
Caller: [unintelligible] …so it’s great.
Andrew: Awesome. Now, you will represent the fans from France. When you first saw this trailer, what were your reactions, please?
Caller: I was really happy to see that the trailer really sticks to the movie. There are many steps you usually don’t get in the movies that they included. Like I wasn’t expecting to see the Death Eater attack on London, or even Draco when he looks in the mirror. I was really like – it was like I was reading the movie again. The [unintelligible] again.
Andrew: The book.
Caller: The book I mean. [laughs]
Andrew: That Draco shot was really cool!
Matt: Yes! He was in the bathroom, right?
Eric: It’s at 1:32 in the bathroom. Yeah, he’s looking
into the mirror. I think that’s so – I have it paused there at the moment, 1:32, and, like you said as well, the attack on London, the Death Eaters scene is just – even with completed special effects, looks amazing! You see the bridge begin to break away, and it’s just – it’s exciting, and…
Caller: Yeah, and did you see this kind of [unintelligible]?
Caller: I think it was kind of the same smoke. I don’t know if they used the same effects. Anyway, no,
it was really great, and even seeing Voldemort at a different age, it was – I don’t know. I think they’re going to put a lot of [unintelligible].
Andrew: Riviere, if you had to respond to this trailer in French, what would you say?
Caller: In French? It was – I don’t know, [speaks French]. Unexpected.
Andrew: Unexpected? All right. [laughs] Is that what that word meant? All right, thank you, there’s our French lesson for today.
Caller: Just one thing, maybe. They show [unintelligible] too much, because in the end when you see Snape, I think he’s in front of Hagrid’s hut?
Andrew: Yeah he is, yeah.
Caller: And it burns when all the Death Eaters are around. So maybe it gives away too much of the story, but apart from that, I was really happy to see this.
Andrew: Yeah. All right, Riviere, thank you.
Caller: Thank you.
Andrew: All right, goodbye.
Eric: One thing they do have a lot of in this trailer too, is character treatment. That’s what I liked about the movie too, the character treatment, that they seem to pay attention to everyone’s character. Instead of trying to advance the plot, advance what happens, they focus more on everybody’s character. Everybody gets a chance to act in this film; it’s really quite nice, instead of saying – instead of it being a movie like in the earlier movies where Ron and Hermione might have one or two prominent lines and the rest are just throwaway lines to advance the plot, here they’re actually – you can see that the actors have only gotten better and they’re allowed to do stuff with their characters. It’s pretty neat, which is kind of also why there are these scenes where Harry’s like, “Well, I am the Chosen One,” or “After all these years you just go with it.” Surely that was written in the script, but it’s just more focus on where these characters are at.
Andrew: Right. Right. All right, Inger – we’ll get another call in here – Inger, good morning, you’re on MuggleCast Live. We’re live, its 10:30 AM, it’s a Friday, the trailer just came out an hour and a half ago, what were your thoughts?
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Call: Character Development and Special Effects
Andrew: I love hearing myself. All right, quick PSA to everyone who’s joining us. When you call in, please wear headphones so your – our stream can’t be picked up by your mic, and please have a question prepared and, you know, all that. So thank you for that. Let’s take another – let’s take a call. Jenny, good morning, you’re on MuggleCast Live, hello.
Caller: I was so excited. I got a text message from Twitter that you guys were doing the live show.
Caller: And I love the new trailer. The sixth book was my favorite book because of all the character development…
Caller: …and from the scenes I’ve seen in the trailer and from what Eric just said, I’m really excited to see this movie.
Andrew: Yes. Yeah, that’s actually a great point. There’s a lot of character development in the book and we’re really seeing some advancements in this – in this movie. What did you think of Hermione’s bushy hair? That’s a hot topic this morning.
Caller: I noticed that.
Caller: I really have no opinion one way or the other on Hermione’s bushy hair. I think it looks fine.
Eric: Oh God, I’m trying to find it. I’m trying to find it.
Andrew: I just got an instant message from my friend: “Hermione’s hair is hot, I think. And Ron is just straight up hot.” That was from my friend Alex Vogelson back in New Jersey. So a lot of people are very interested in the hair. Jenny, was there anything else that really stuck out to you?
Caller: A lot of the special effects in the trailer. The Millennium Bridge collapsing looks amazing!
Andrew: Yes, it does.
Caller: And I also love the sort of fog-like, inky, very fluid effects with the memory.
Caller: The memory sequences.
Andrew: Definitely. So – and you know what? Hallelujah, we got a trailer that didn’t have any corny effects in it.
Caller: I know, it’s amazing.
Andrew: The first trailer – yeah! The first trailer had those stupid titles, that I swear to God, they made in iMovie, or they had someone very basic do some very basic Photoshop stuff. And then the second trailer we had that shot of McGonagall sending up that [laughs] stupid lightening bolt.
Eric: Yeah, well, to be fair that was a leaked trailer.
Andrew: Right. Right.
Eric: [laughs] That one wasn’t – you can’t pin that trailer on…
Andrew: But it did come out, and we did see it, so…
Matt: And they – and they didn’t take it down.
Eric: It was kind of – it was kind of funny. But the other thing – it’s been mentioned twice now, and Jenny also mentioned this too, the Millennium Bridge collapse. I think it’s hilarious that it’s the Millennium Bridge that is collapsing, because when the Millennium Bridge was first opened, it was deemed unstable.
Eric: They let the first load of people on it – or, however, and it started shaking [laughs] and people got scared and ran off, so they actually had to close the Millennium Bridge. Is that how that happened I think?
Caller: …any tour you go on in London, they’ll tell you that. I think the bridge cost 10,000 pounds to build because the first 6,000 pounds was to build the bridge and then the other four was to take out the wiggle.
Caller: Or something to that effect. I forget the exact numbers.
Andrew: The wiggle.
Caller: But, yeah, they paid – they paid a lot more money to keep it from shaking.
Eric: Yeah, which is hilarious, because you see it just rip and tear. [laughs]
Andrew: Yeah, that – I guess that’s very ironic then, isn’t it?
Eric: That’s an inside one.
Matt: It’s scary as you-know-what, to be honest. I mean, could you imagine being on that bridge when it’s like wobbling on all sides?
Andrew: That’s like an earthquake. That’s like a California earthquake.
Eric: That’s the thing. I think the Queen was there when they opened it. I mean, maybe not on the bridge, but there was some serious – some serious issues when they opened it in time, I guess in schedule for the millennium, and had to close it then for another year.
Matt: Yeah, well, there’s nobody on the bridge when it collapses, so that’s good.
Eric: Yeah. Yeah, they had to make a point to do that. No one falling in the water or whatever, but…
Eric: Well, actually, in the books, people fell in.
Eric: In the movie, I’m not entirely sure they don’t in the movie, to be honest, because it’s shaking, and there are…
Matt: Well, I’m just seeing it in this…
Caller: It’s a little hard to tell in that like…
Caller: …four second clip you get of the bridge collapsing.
Matt: You can see in the corner there’s a few people running off the bridge, but they’re almost already off it when it’s starting to break.
Andrew: Right. Hey, real quick, here’s something that hit the news the other day: Emma Thompson not coming back for Deathly Hallows, and she said she doesn’t feel like she’s creatively attached to it?
Andrew: And I couldn’t believe that, because she’s such a good Trelawney!
Matt: …but I can understand what she means by it.
Eric: I understand too.
Andrew: Why? What does she mean?
Matt: They didn’t give her anything!
Eric: Well, it’s not even a matter of what they gave her. She worked with everything she got. Since Movie 3 she’s created a memorable character, and I’m sure she’s
enjoyed doing it, but the question was whether or not to go on with Harry Potter Movie 7 or the sequel to Nanny McPhee, which she wrote, which she acted in.
Andrew: That I understand.
Eric: She was in it, and wrote it, and had much more creative development. So if it’s a question of doing your own sequel or starring as one of the ten million
British actors and actresses in this British film, you know, instead of doing a unique British film on your own – the sequel to Nanny McPhee, which was very
different altogether, and – you know, it’s Emma Thompson’s baby in a way, so would you go to your baby or go to someone else’s baby and have, maybe, a few, really good, but a few good lines?
Andrew: Yeah, but Micah brought up a good point to me I mean, what would it take to get her in there, for what, like the one scene, the Battle of Hogwarts?
Andrew: I think that’s the only one that matters, and how long would it take her? Two, three days?
Andrew: I mean, look, nothing against Emma Thompson. She’s great and I can completely understand this whole Nancy McPhee thing, it’s her movie.
Matt: It’s Nanny McPhee.
Eric: McPhee. [laughs]
Andrew: Oh, well, I typed in the news post: Na – oh no, Micah typed Nancy. That idiot.
Eric: It’s Nanny McPhee.
Andrew: I’ll fix that right now.
Eric: Your fake attempt at sincerity there, Andrew, has failed.
Andrew: What? No, no, I just – the post says Nancy McPhee, and that’s what I was reading from. [laughs]
Eric: It’s Micah’s fault.
Andrew: It is.
Penny: The reason why it bothers me that she’s not going to be in it is I think one of the best parts of the seventh book, in the end during the Battle of Hogwarts, was that everybody came back, and they all – you know, from the beginning of the series, everybody had their role and, you know, so whoever it was – Sprout and Neville come with the Mandrakes, and Trelawney’s throwing down the crystal balls, and it just – it felt, once again, like the book came full circle, and I’m scared we’re not going to get that feeling in the movie.
Eric: Yeah. Yeah, I’ll be looking for news that Chris Rankin will be or won’t be returning…
Eric: …because if he returns in Movie 7, it’s a good bet that I’m going to enjoy the end scene, but if Chris Rankin doesn’t come back – he plays Percy Weasley – if he doesn’t come back, that’ll be a little upsetting. But they haven’t really shown any of the falling out with the Weasley family because he hasn’t been – I don’t think he’s been in a movie since, what, 4? Or possibly 3. Was he in – yeah, he was in Movie 5 because he was with Fudge, so…
Eric: …hey, they kind of haven’t forgotten about Chris Rankin there, which is good, but – yeah, you’re right, totally right, Penny, on that full-circle effect.
Andrew: Jenny, thank you for calling in.
Caller: Thanks for taking my call.
Andrew: You’re welcome.
Eric: You rock.
Andrew: She rocks. Nathalie, hello. Good morning, you’re on MuggleCast Live!
Andrew: Hey! What’s going on?
Eric: Oh God, there’s like a fifteen minute delay.
Andrew: Yeah, there’s a little delay there. If you’re listening to the show, put on headphones. Then call us and listen to us through the Skype call, not the stream.
It’s a very technical process, I guess, but you got to do what you got to do.
Andrew: So, what is it, it’s 10:40 right now, we’ve been going for an hour and ten. What are we doing here?
Eric: Have we talked about Quidditch yet?
Matt: A little…
Andrew: A very little.
Matt: I think we touched it, yeah.
Andrew: Very little. What were your thoughts? What did you want to bring up? I brought up earlier how the special effects have certainly improved.
Eric: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they were never bad for Quidditch, in my opinion, but they’ve just done so much more – because they could do so much more, they’ve done so much more, I guess, if that makes sense. I mean, actually, what you really notice, I guess – and the only Quidditch scene so far that’s really upset me as far as special effects is the scene in the rain in Prisoner of Azkaban, which didn’t exactly do anything much for me, but they’re in the rain – or is it the snow? I think it’s the rain, yeah, it’s the rain, or no – whatever. They’re in heavy precipitation in this Quidditch pitch – yeah, yeah, it is snow – and
it was so good to see the Hogwarts grounds covered in snow and a Quidditch game. It was just beautiful school sports. It totally fed into the scene and environment, and yeah, they’ve totally done it all out in the special effects, which look great.
Andrew: Definitely. You know, and we’ve seen the Quidditch before, I’ll say it again. We’ve seen the Quidditch before and I’m really counting on some very great improvements CGI-wise.
Eric: Yeah. I’m inclined to even say like – you said you’ve seen Quidditch before. I’m going to say not like this you haven’t.
Andrew: Oh. So I guess the special effects were done when you saw it.
Eric: Not always. Harry is lecturing or talking to his team on the Quidditch pitch and there’s a giant blue screen behind them.
Andrew: [laughs] I wish I could have saw that.
Eric: It’s hilarious, because he’s in character and it’s seamless because some scenes, you know, some angles were completed and some other ones weren’t, so…
Andrew: Well, maybe they painted the Quidditch pitch blue. Would you be upset if you like – you saw the movie and it still was the blue screen?
Eric: Well, no because…
Eric: …you can see the…
Andrew: I’m just kidding. I’m just…
Eric: …the poles. Yeah, you can see the – yeah. It was hilarious but it was cool. It was insight into the process, I think I mentioned on a previous episode, because Harry’s in character – Dan is in character. In between the scenes you can’t even tell. It’s not like all of a sudden because there’s a blue screen, there’s
Dan. You know what I’m saying? But you can totally notice the big giant blue – it’s hilarious.
Eric: So it’s good to see that they worked on the Quidditch effects and – yeah. Like David Heyman said, the movie’s nearly done.
Andrew: It’s done, he said, except for one tweak.
Eric: That’s what I said earlier, yeah.
Andrew: Have we discussed that on MuggleCast yet? I don’t know. I can’t…
Eric: The tweak?
Andrew: Matt, did we discuss that?
Andrew: Well, I can’t remember if it hit the news after we recorded or not, but yeah. They said they have – they’re not going to put the movie together until six weeks before to prevent any pirating, which I thought was interesting and very crucial. I mean, they probably learned a little lesson with this other trailer leak.
Eric: But seriously, you want pirating? I mean, look at this trailer. It just – it’s that simple, because – and I’m – not to say that everything in the movie is captured in this trailer, because it’s not, but…
Andrew: What do you mean pirating? Look at the trailer, it’s pirating? What do you mean by that?
Eric: No, no, I’m saying if you want to look at an early copy of the movie…
Eric: …I think the trailer – this trailer – I’m so proud of it, that it really highlights some great stuff, and whets, W-H-E-T-S, peoples’ appetites just perfectly.
Eric: Maybe that didn’t make sense. I’m sorry.
Seeing Twilight For the Trailer
Andrew: No, it – no, it makes sense. Changing the subject a bit, Penny, I’m sure you were probably planning on seeing Twilight anyway, right?
Andrew: Are you going to see it any earlier now that you know that the movie’s coming out?
Penny: That I know the trailer’s coming out?
Andrew: Yeah. Sorry, that’s what I meant.
Penny: That’s actually a really good question, because I was – I’m actually in December going up to New York to see Equus with some friends, and I was going to
see Twilight with them then.
Andrew: Oh. So you were going to wait.
Penny: And now, I don’t know. I might have to go see it now.
Andrew: You know, I just realized this. Summit must be so happy that there’s a – that Harry Potter is being put before their movie. That’s got to boost sales, right?
Penny: Summit is the winner in this whole thing.
Andrew: [laughs] Yes, they are.
Penny: That’s the bottom line.
Matt: Yeah. Pretty much.
Eric: Best line ever. Yes. Summit wins.
Andrew: I mean, man, did they luck out. They got the Harry Potter date, the Thanksgiving date that everyone is always after. Yeah, and now they got the Harry Potter trailer coming out before their movie. They must be ecstatic.
Eric: I know. I have…
Andrew: You know what? I want to hear – people, if you’re – if you don’t want to see Twilight, but you want to see the trailer, call in. I want to know what people think, you know, because there’s these people out there who are like, “Twilight,
my God, I definitely don’t want to see that.” But now that the Harry Potter trailer is before it, are people going to go buy a ticket and then just see the trailer and then leave? [laughs]
Eric: That would be funny but completely useless because Summit would have your money.
Andrew: Well, I don’t think they really care about giving Summit the money.
Eric: Okay, well, yeah. Right, right, right. But, I mean, seeing the trailer in a theater – I mean,
I already had midnight tickets for Twilight not because I enjoy it as a book series, because I haven’t read the books, but I was interested in the movie, so I got midnight tickets. And so that’ll be cool. But people – because of all the different formats that this movie trailer was released in, the highest of definition, I think that’ll prevent people from going to see Twilight just for the movie, because to be perfectly honest, computer resolution’s amazing, and, you know, with all these different high definition versions of this trailer, really I could wait. I could
hold off from seeing it in theaters if I didn’t want to go see Twilight.
Andrew: Mhm. I mean, plus, you get this HD version online. You don’t really – who needs to see it on the big screen anymore? I mean, it looks just as – it looks better at home on your computer screen, in my opinion.
Eric: Well, except for surround sound. That’s…
Eric: …the main thing, you know.
Andrew: And plus, it is cool music. So you’ll want to hear that in surround sound.
Seeing Movie 6 in an IMAX Theater
Penny: Plus, there’s the whole audience thing, and that brings me to a question that I wanted to ask you guys. After seeing this trailer, though, how excited are you now about seeing this – the movie in an IMAX at Azkatraz?
Andrew: Oh, yes. What’s it? [laughs] I almost called it Portus.
Eric: Can words describe it?
Andrew: No! No, and they should play all of the trailers before the actual movie to get us really excited. [laughs]
Andrew: They should play the music before – they should play the trailers before the movie because the music was awesome.
Back to the Amazing Music
Eric: Oh God, the music! Have you guys heard that “Hedwig’s Theme” at the end of the trailer?
Andrew: Yeah, we were talking about that earlier. Let’s listen to it again for anyone who was just joining us. We’re discussing the new Harry Potter trailer, and let’s listen to the end right here.
[“Hedwig’s Theme” plays]
Andrew: [laughs] And it’s so funny because you’re totally expecting another shot to come right after that, and as I said at the beginning of the show, it’s just like, pfft, July.
Andrew: It sort of just drops you. [laughs]
Eric: Yeah, I was expecting another scene too.
Andrew: It’s very cool music. I like that random “Harry!” call in the middle. Did you guys hear that? Right when – let me play it again real quick. And you don’t see anyone calling “Harry.”
[Trailer clips plays]
Andrew: Right there. “Harry!” There’s no shot of anyone calling him. It’s kind of just to add to the action, but I thought it was…
Eric: I think that’s Bellatrix.
Andrew: No, that was a dude.
Eric: Oh, well, what – do you have a time stamp or what?
Andrew: It’s when the bridge is collapsing or like going crazy. It’s right around 1:36. My friend – I’m talking with her over instant messenger – has a good strategy over what we were talking about earlier. She’s going to buy a ticket to a different movie, catch the trailer, then go watch a different movie. So to avoid watching Twilight. [laughs] That’s what she…
Penny: [unintelligible] Twilight.
Andrew: I know. [laughs] That’s funny.
Eric: Yeah, that’s a completely disembodied voice. I don’t even know who’s shouting that.
Andrew: Hold on. Hold on, your mic’s off. Go ahead, Matt.
Matt: The person who cries out “Harry” is Mr. Weasley during the Burrow scene.
Andrew: How do you know that?
Matt: Because it’s from the leaked trailer.
Andrew: Well, thank you, Matt Britton.
Matt: When you see Mr. Weasley calling out for Harry.
Andrew: There we go. Which totally doesn’t fit with that shot. The bridge collapsing. [laughs]
Eric: Oh, the bridge collapsing.
Matt: Is Harry on the bridge?
Andrew: Yeah, people are going to think Harry’s on the bridge.
Matt: It’s like, “Harry, no!”
Andrew: By the way, they have a great shot in here of the Hogwarts Express traveling through the snow.
Matt: There’s a lot of snow in this.
Andrew: Yeah, I was just going to say that. Snow is in this film. The last trailer was fire now it’s snow.
Matt: Geez. Next year it’s going to be all water all the time.
Andrew: What’s – I mean, God, it’s like all of the Captain Planet super heroes. Wind! Fire! Water! None of them were snow granted, but you get the point I’m trying to make.
Eric: Earth, fire, water, heart, go planet.
The Astronomy Tower
Eric: The Astronomy Tower. The daytime view from the Astronomy Tower. I think that’s an awesome view. I’ll be taking stills of this for sure or I’ll find stills from this trailer, because quite a few good ones.
Andrew: Yeah, Matt actually took some stills before we started to get them up on MuggleNet, which we do have to do soon.
Dumbledore Under the Umbrella
Eric: What about Dumbledore walking into this memory carrying the umbrella?
Eric: Do you guys have a comment on that?
Andrew: What’s the time code on that?
Eric: When he’s approaching the – it’s 49 seconds.
Andrew: Oh, you mean he’s holding the – oh. Is that? That’s Dumbledore? I didn’t even realize that.
Penny: Isn’t that Dumbledore…
Eric: Yeah, Dumbledore is traveling the – sorry?
Penny: Isn’t that Dumbledore of the memory?
Eric: Yeah. Yeah.
Andrew: Is it raining? I mean, can it be as simple as that?
Eric: Well, yeah. It’s not for effect. [laughs] It’s not like they said, “Michael Gambon, we’re going to give you an umbrella.”
Andrew: I know, but it certainly doesn’t look like it’s raining.
Eric: Oh, that’s true. Well, it’s kind of – well, that’s because the memory itself is the opposite of dissolving, I think, at the moment. If you look – oh, I was going to say that one car had windshield wipers going, but it’s dark and dreary for sure.
Eric: So it might as well be raining.
Call: Trailer Before Twilight
Andrew: It really is. Let’s try to get Nathalie back in here. Nathalie, or I guess I should say Nathalie [pronounces like “Natalie”], good morning.
Caller: How’s it going?
Andrew: Pretty good. How about you?
Caller: Pretty good. I actually work for you on Twilight Source.
Andrew: I know.
Caller: I’m one of the forum – yeah.
Andrew: I know, I know. Well, it’s good to finally talk to you. [laughs]
Andrew: Hey, what are your thoughts on the trailer?
Caller: I was really excited. At first I saw it and I thought it was just the leaked one, but WB had actually released it. But when I started to see that it as a new one I was really excited.
Andrew: That’s why I put “Warner Brothers releases” at the very start of this headline so nobody was like, “Oh my God, another one leaked out?” Because of course this was by complete surprise. And it’s just like the first trailer where they’ve surprised fans, isn’t it?
Caller: Oh yeah, for sure, because usually it’s like we know kind of two or three weeks in advanced…
Caller: …because they’re like, “We’re definitely going to release it like three or four weeks…”
Andrew: With a certain movie.
Caller: “…with this movie.”
Andrew: Right. Yeah. So that was cool. This is – and I’m wondering if this is like another one of their last minute decisions or something.
Andrew: Because I mean, the Twilight…
Caller: Yeah, maybe they worked it out from people with Twilight to have more people go see the movie.
Andrew: Yeah. Well, how does this work? Does WB have to pay for it to be in front of – because they said they’re clear; it’s going to be before Twilight. So do they pick – Penny?
Andrew: Or Eric, sorry.
Eric: Oh, you’re asking Penny.
Andrew: No, no, I thought I heard Penny. But, go ahead, Eric.
Eric: Oh, do they – oh.
Andrew: No, I don’t think so.
Eric: Well, I – working in a movie theater for a year, I ended up being a projectionist for a short amount of time before I left, but usually trailers go – certain studios will have trailers that go with their films, and that’s why it’s so interesting that you say that they this trailer will be in front of Twilight, because as far as I know, they don’t have anything to do with each other, besides the fact they’re both fantasies, which is the other thing that trailers are usually grouped by. But, strictly speaking, I mean, there are rules handed down for all movie theaters who want to buy the movie. And by buy I mean show it. You have to purchase the print that they can’t put certain trailers in front of other movies and all sorts of rules like that, so I don’t really know what’s going on, but I don’t think that Warner Brothers paid Summit. I…
Matt: No. No. I don’t think so.
Eric: …think Summit paid Warner Brothers.
Caller: Oh, sorry. I think maybe they made like a deal. Like not maybe money but Summit probably went like “Oh, well, we could use your trailer if you want to release it.”
Matt: No, no, no. I think Summit was tickle-pink to actually have the option to have a Harry Potter trailer in the beginning of their movie.
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, of course, they’re…
Matt: It was either Twilight or even 007 that came out today.
Eric: God, I’m going to see that today.
Andrew: Me too.
Matt: Oh geez, so am I.
Andrew: Very excited about that.
Matt: But, yeah – I mean, who would not want a Harry Potter trailer in the beginning of their film? Just to get the people in there just to see the trailer itself.
Andrew: Yeah, that’s what we were saying.
Andrew: I mean, Summit, oh my God.
Matt: No, yeah, they hit the jackpot really with this, because that’s the only really big movie of next summer that a lot of people are wanting to see.
Andrew: Yeah. Speaking from a Harry Potter fan perspective right now and not Twilight fan – although I am a Twilight fan, but putting that aside – Summit is really lucking out with all this hot topic merchandise with the timing of the film release and now this trailer. I mean, they must all be sitting around a table right now having a round of drinks, because this will – I honestly think this would easily add – people who are on the fence about seeing Twilight and are Potter fans will now be like “Oh, well, okay. I’ll go see the movie and I get to see the Harry Potter trailer. Cool.” The…
Andrew: Another million right there. Smack. Done. Game over.
Matt: Aren’t they all – aren’t Twilight and Harry Potter fans pretty much the same?
Caller: Aren’t people – a lot of people go see movies just for the trailers. Like…
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah. That’s true.
Andrew: Well, yeah, exactly. So that’s why Summit will be so excited.
Matt: That’s what I did with Happy Feet. I just saw the trailer and then left.
Eric: You didn’t see Happy Feet?
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Andrew: Eric’s all still upset.
Matt: [imitates Eric] You didn’t see the penguins dancing?
Andrew: And actually, this is one of the rare times where a Harry Potter trailer premieres without a WB movie, because Goblet of Fire trailer premiered with Happy Feet, Half-Blood Prince trailer – what did that premiere with? The teaser?
Eric: Oh, um…
Matt: Um, um. Um. Um. Um.
Caller: Wasn’t that with Star Wars?
Eric: Dark Knight?
Andrew: Oh. No, no.
Eric: Wasn’t it the Dark Knight?
Andrew: Was it? Or Star Wars?
Penny: That was just a fifteen second clip with Dark Knight. I’m a…
Matt: That was the teaser for the IMAX film.
Andrew: Oh, right, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew: Well, point is, they got a – this was one of the rarer times where WB’s putting a trailer before a non-WB movie, so…
Eric: I don’t know, are they trying to help out Summit? I mean…
Andrew: [laughs] I doubt it. Well…
Eric: I say you already got my release date, you know, seriously. But they gave the trailer. Summit is just so – I mean, I’m going to see the Twilight movie because I haven’t read the Twilight books, and now with the Harry Potter trailer in front of it, it’s just amazing and easy.
Penny: Well, I think that’s why Summit…
Andrew: Nathalie, we’re going to let you go. But thank you. Ooh, getting some heavy feedback there.
Penny: I think that’s why Summit lucks out, is because Joe Harry Potter fan, who wants to just see the trailer, is more likely – because he’s a Harry Potter fan – is more likely to sit through the Twilight movie…
Andrew: Oh yeah.
Penny: …as opposed to somebody who wants to just, say, see – let’s say it was going to be in front of – well, I don’t know. I lost my train of thought.
Matt: Wasn’t it The Mummy that premiered with a teaser for this film?
Penny: Yeah, maybe.
Matt: The Mummy…
Eric: I think so.
Matt: Yeah, the third Mummy movie.
Eric: Yeah, I …
Matt: I don’t know which movie premiered with Order of the Phoenix though.
Andrew: Well, that’s lame. Oh, that’s right! Yeah, because The Mummy was doing so bad, or The Mummy was so bad.
[Eric and Matt laugh]
Matt: Of course I’m right!
Andrew: It got such bad reviews. And remember? I was like, “WB’s definitely putting the trailer before this movie because it’s so bad.”
Eric: [laughs] Yeah, that’s right.
Andrew: And it ended up doing bad. I mean – yeah, so …
Eric: That’s so upsetting to me because I love The Mummy and The Mummy Returns, and I haven’t seen the third one, but I’m going to. [laughs]
Andrew: Okay, are we done here? What’s going on? I’m not sure what to do.
Eric: Well, if there’s anything else you can talk about.
The Announcer Voice
Eric: Let’s do another run through the trailer quick and see if there’s anything else we can talk about. Oh guys, did you talk about the announcer voice?
Andrew: No. Was there an announcer voice in this one?
Matt: “Warner Brothers Pictures presents.” That’s it.
Eric: The whole way it was some other guy.
Matt: It was Dumbledore!
Matt: Yes, it was Dumbledore talking.
Eric: Michael Gambon?
Andrew: Now what’s the time code? We’ll play it.
Matt: Well, are you – are you being serious?
Andrew: There’s no …
Matt: There’s no announcer in this. There’s no – I mean only – the only announcer guy says, “Warner Brothers Pictures presents.” And then it’s just still Dumbledore talking.
Eric: Hang on I’m watching now.
Andrew: I think the funniest scene in this trailer was when Harry and Slughorn clink glasses and then Ron starts to drink and he just passes out.
Andrew: [laughs] That’s pretty funny.
Matt: It’s too bad though. He’s sort of dying when that happens, but …
Andrew: Yeah. Well, all right, I think – I think we’re finished here.
Andrew: I know Matt’s rushing to get out because he has to go to work, but…
Matt: Kind of.
Andrew: I think – I think we’re good.
Eric: Yeah, there is an announcer guy. It starts at – it starts at 40 seconds: “This year…”
Andrew: 40 – oh okay. Hold on, we’ll play it. It starts at forty seconds?
Eric: 40 seconds.
Andrew: All right, here we go.
Ron: Can you introduce me?
Announcer: This year …
Matt: Oh yeah.
[Trailer Clip plays]
[Andrew and Matt acknowledge and laugh at the announcer]
Matt: Oh me.
Andrew: I see what you’re saying.
Matt: I stink. I fail.
Andrew: That’s funny, I didn’t even – you don’t even notice those things. I mean, not like it’s a big deal.
Penny: Yeah, I didn’t think…
Eric: It’s all – all our minds are prepped for movie watching; we just take it in.
Matt: [imitating announcer] “In a world with magic.”
Andrew: Okay, well, I think this is our initial – is our initial reactions from the trailer, and I’ll say anyone who wants to call in with their thoughts. I’m looking forward to seeing reaction videos as I posted on MuggleNet with this news post. Well, it’s too late now for anyone listening to this, but when people record – when they watch a trailer for the first time we want them to record their reactions and then send them in to andrew at staff dot mugglenet dot com and – oh excellent, we’ve already gotten four or five reaction videos. So that’s …
Eric: Why aren’t they listening to MuggleCast?
Andrew Well – well…
Andrew: I don’t know, good point. Well, there’s only four or five, so that’s okay.
Eric: I know. I know. It’s a joke.
Call: Snow Theme
Andrew: Well, we’ll have another episode – another MuggleCast episode out soon. Oh wait, let’s get one more caller in here. This guy’s name is Andrew so that’s why I’m taking him. Andrew Carol, good morning, you’re on MuggleCast live.
Andrew: Okay, here he goes.
Andrew: Hello! Good morning.
Caller: Good morning. Actually, it’s the night. It’s in France.
Andrew: Oh, I’m sorry.
Eric: You got a guy from France call.
Matt: It’s our second guy.
Andrew: Second guy from France.
[Caller says something unintelligible]
Andrew and Matt: Yeah.
Caller: My little host brother was asking me if you guys could speak French.
Andrew: Oui, oui, that’s about all I can do.
Caller: [laughs] Yeah, the trailer was good.
Andrew: Well, was there anything that really stuck out to you in particular?
Caller: I like the snow.
Caller: Kind of reminds me of Christmas.
Andrew: The snow was nice. We had fire last time. Now we have frozen water theme.
Andrew: That was nice. All right, well, Andrew, thank you for calling in with your thoughts.
Matt: Thanks, Andrew.
Caller: Yes, snow is nice.
[Caller and Matt laugh]
Andrew: All right, thank you.
Eric: Au revoir.
Andrew: Au revoir.
Matt: Au revoir.
Matt: Overall, I suck.
Andrew: Eric, you’re so good at your French.
Eric: I know.
Matt: You must eat a lot of fries.
[Andrew and Eric laugh]
Andrew: All right, yeah.
Andrew: Yeah, okay, so I think we’re going to wrap it up today. Penny, thanks so much for joining us today. It was wonderful.
Penny: Thanks for having me. I had a good time.
Andrew: Penny from Harry Potter Prognostications. That’s HPProgs.com, right?
Penny: Mhm. You got it.
Eric: HP Progs is so cool.
Andrew: Yes, it’s a lovely podcast, and we should have you on more often.
Andrew: You’re a wonderful host, and, frankly, I’m sick of Laura. It’s time to get a new female co-host.
[Eric and Penny laugh]
Penny: No, but I like Laura!
Andrew: I’m just kidding.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Penny: So far all the girls are always in or around Maryland, which is weird.
Andrew: Yeah. Laurie. [laughs] Laurie. Laura hasn’t joined us today because she was in class unfortunately. So – all right, guys, well, thank you very much for joining us. We’ll see everyone again soon. Hope everyone enjoyed the wonderful surprise given to us from WB. And I think we can all agree Summit is the most happiest about this decision today.
Penny: Summit is the winner.
Andrew: They are. Summit is full…
Eric: But the fans should take away – the fans should take away how awesome this film is.
Eric: Based on the trailer.
Andrew: Absolutely. And this show, in case you missed the beginning or something, will be released on the feed very shortly. I’ll do it right after we sign off.
Eric: Did you need me to record in Audacity?
Andrew: Yeah. You weren’t doing – no, I’m kidding. [laughs] I’m kidding, yeah.
Andrew: LOL. Funny joke.
[Andrew and Eric laugh]
Andrew: All right, guys, thanks, everyone, for listening. Penny, again, thank you. Eric, thanks for joining in, even last minute, I love doing these last minute shows; they’re always – they’re always so much fun.
Andrew: Oh, you know what? Let’s end on something fun. We talked about Matt being on Price Is Right.
Matt: Oh, no.
Eric: I haven’t seen it. Where is it?
Andrew: Oh, well, here, you get to listen to it. It’s on YouTube, but here, we’re going to end with this. All right, here we go.
[Price Is Right clip plays]
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Andrew: He gets called down and gets to say two words on The Price Is Right: “650, Drew.”
Matt: Hey, that’s two more words than you had.
Andrew: That’s very true.
Penny: You’ve seriously fulfilled every one of my dreams as a child with that.
Andrew: [laughs] I know.
Matt: I didn’t really get the chance to win anything though. Now I have to wait another ten years before I can go back up there.
Andrew: Here’s the shot where he blew it.
[Price Is Right clip plays]
Andrew: Oh. For some reason I didn’t include “650, Drew.” [laughs] What!? I isolated all these different clips.
Matt: I don’t know anything about soccer equipment! How could I…
Eric: How much was it? How much was it?
Matt: It was like two grand.
Andrew: Yeah, it was over two grand.
Eric: Oh, oh, okay. I would’ve lost too.
Andrew: Here, let’s hear Matt’s voice on The Price Is Right. This’ll be exciting.
[The Price Is Right clip plays]
Andrew: [laughs] “650, Drew.”
Matt: Yeah, I’m a stud.
Andrew: [laughs] You stole that from me because I told you my dream was always to go down there and say the price “…Drew.”
Matt: I didn’t say “the price, Drew.”
Andrew: Anyway, if you want to see video of it, Matt coming down, getting called down, it’s actually on my YouTube channel, YouTube.com/Sims89. Subscribe to me too! Rate, comment, woo-hoo!
Eric: If they ask you to pull it, will you?
Andrew: Yeah, but there’s hundreds of Price Is Right clips on there. I don’t think…
Eric: Oh okay, just in case. I wonder what the timeline is between – I have to see it.
Andrew: Well, the show’s already out. It’s not like…
Andrew: …I released it before.
Eric: Okay, cool.
Andrew: All right, guys, that wraps up MuggleCast today. We’ll see everyone again soon. Thanks again, Penny, for the millionth time. We’re trying to wrap this up.
Andrew: All right, guys, the show will be on the feed later. Thank you, everyone, for joining us. This has been MuggleCast Live, discussing the brand new trailer released by Warner Brothers. All right. Goodbye, everyone!
[Music begins playing]
Eric: He’s Andrew Sims, I’m Eric Scull, and on The Price Is Right is Matt Britton.
Matt: That’s me.
Andrew: And from HP Progs is Penny. Goodbye, everybody! Have a great Friday!
Matt: Have a pleasant tomorrow.