MuggleCast 174 Transcript
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Micah: Because it’s all coming back, this is MuggleCast Episode 174, for May the 8th, 2009.
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Andrew: Welcome to MuggleCast Episode 174, it’s May! Happy May to you all! And guess who’s back with us this week?
Andrew: As promised, Jamie Lawrence…
Andrew: …Has made his epic return.
Andrew: Jamie, what do you have to say to our listeners?
Andrew: Welcome back to the show.
Jamie: Thank you, thank you. I’m feeling too rusty to say anything, really.
Jamie: It feels weird, it doesn’t feel natural yet. I think I’ll get into it, I’ll get into it soon. But I wouldn’t…
Jamie: …I wouldn’t call it epic yet, because we should probably wait until we’ve finished recording it just in case it turns out that it’s not epic.
Jamie: I hope it will be epic, though.
Andrew: A lot rides on the British Joke of the Day, as well.
[Matt and Andrew laugh]
Matt: He’s like, “Awww, I forgot!”
Eric: Jamie, there is one, right?
Jamie: Of course there is one.
Eric: Ah, ok.
Jamie: What a silly question! [laughs]
Eric: Well see, we’ve done that before, the little prelude, with the – you know, hyped it up, and then there hasn’t been one.
Eric: I just wanted to make sure.
Micah: Well, now you’ve given him about forty minutes to go ahead and get one ready.
Eric: [laughs] Yeah.
Jamie: Aww, don’t be silly.
Micah: You have one?
Jamie: I don’t do that, I spend months in libraries looking up, like, the meaning of words…
Jamie: So I can get a perfectly formed joke.
Micah: Well, clearly you’ve spent months on this one.
Jamie: Yeah, I have, yeah. That’s why – [laughs] – it’s going to be epic.
Micah: You’ve had plenty of time. It better be.
Andrew: That’s some excellent prep work. Well, we have a lot of show to get to today, there’s a lot of news to discuss, and Eric went to the Harry Potter Exhibition, so we’ve got to talk to him about that.
Andrew: That was a fun time, right Eric?
Andrew: And – no, it seems like a fun time. It seems like a fun time for everyone that goes. Let’s get straight into the show. I’m Andrew Sims.
Eric: I’m Eric Scull.
Jamie: I’m waiting till last. It’s my…
Micah: All right.
Jamie: My rightful place now.
Matt: I’m Matt Britton.
Micah: I’m Micah Tannenbaum.
Jamie: And I’m Jamie Lawrence, and I’m going to try and work my way back up to the beginning of that order.
Eric: Are you really, or are you just saying that?
Jamie: No, I’ll try, I’ll try. I’ll try.
Micah: Maybe by the end of the show you can make it back in there.
Jamie: Yeah, but then I…
Matt: Maybe you can make it up one.
Jamie: After my joke bombs.
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Andrew: All right, Micah, there’s a lot of news lately. What has been going on? Please enlighten us.
News: Half-Blood Prince Posters
Micah: All right. Well, I didn’t write this news, but I’ll try and enlighten you anyway. [laughs] There’s a few more Half-Blood Prince posters that were released last week, and a little bit of a different look to them compared with past films.
Micah: What did you guys think of these?
Andrew: I love them. I mean, they finally – and I mentioned this on the live show – finally, they’re going away from the traditional posters they’ve always made. They’re kind of like – I don’t know. Like, they try to cram a million things into the posters and have all these little details, but now it’s just the characters, and these nice close-ups…
Andrew: And they’re very dark. And then…
Jamie: Haven’t they done that for something else, though? I swear they…
Matt: I think they…
Matt: I think they did it for Chamber of Secrets.
Andrew: What? With close ups?
Andrew: Well. I mean they’ve done. There’s something different about these. They’re very, very dark, and they’re very simple. Those other posters that were released when the trailer was released, and they had the title all gigantic and slanted and you couldn’t even read the whole thing. It was a really cool style I thought.
Jamie: I was going to say. From that thumbnail it looks a bit Brokeback Mountain-y. Dumbledore.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Andrew: Snape and Dumbledore.
Jamie: Snape and Dumbledore. Yeah. Heath Ledger is back from the dead.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Matt: I was going to say, Ron and Greyback kind of look like it more.
Jamie: It’s loaded, really?
Jamie: Is Greyback going to be scary then? Do you think?
Andrew: Yeah. Well there’s the one of Ron and Greyback is pretty – Greyback looks pretty…
Micah: I thought the one with Dumbledore and Snape, I think I told you this Andrew too, it looks pretty badass.
Micah: The others were pretty cool too. What was it, Hermione and Slughorn and Harry and Draco and then Ron and Greyback. I think they did a really good job this time around. I think they were focusing more on the darkness of these films even though they said that this one wasn’t going to be as dark as the few that had come before it and obviously Deathly Hallows.
Micah: I like the way that they…
Jamie: Yeah, but don’t they only say that?
Micah: Yeah, they do. They say it every time. It’s getting darker.
Jamie: Yeah, but don’t they say that so the movie thing rates it like UC. Or something, like universal…
Jamie: …Instead of.
Andrew: Well, speaking of that, Jamie, in the U.S. here Half-Blood Prince got a PG rating. Any film in the series hasn’t been rated PG since Prisoner of Azkaban.
Jamie: That’s stupid.
Andrew: What do you think about that?
Jamie: I think that’s ridiculous. I saw this article here in the U.K. about this film, this horror film called Wishbaby that got rated some stupid rating like 15 when it was disgusting. It was really horrible, horrible stuff. Sick scenes happening in it and I saw the trailer for Half-Blood Prince, and I think it looks pretty scary.
Andrew: It does.
Jamie: I just they’re bowing to pressure. I don’t know what pressure, but this is a perfect time to bring up The Pirate Bay.
Andrew: Why? What’s that?
Jamie: I was disgusted by the verdict in the trial.
Andrew: Oh, them being taken down?
Jamie: Yeah, I think it’s ridiculous. I know what it is, it’s political
heavyweights behind the scene in nice crisp ironed suits deciding what’s going to happen in the world. And I think it’s disgusting.
Andrew: Yeah, for sure.
Andrew: I mean – we saw this, me and Matt saw this documentary on the MPAA and it showed how messed up they were.
Andrew: So, and I’ve said it quite a few times on the show before, but it’s just a shame.
Andrew: And we’ll see. We’ll be able to make a final determination. Eric, what did you think of these new posters?
Eric: The posters are cool. I like that it’s not just fit as many characters as you possibly can…
Jamie: Yeah, it’s true.
Eric: …Looking angst-y and all.
Eric: And, to be fair, Goblet of Fire was about the different schools and stuff, so it was kind of cool like that, but the just did the same thing for five. It’s good to see that. Harry and Draco’s arrival and Snape and – Who’s on Snape’s…
Eric: Yeah, Snape and Dumbledore. Exactly. They’re like the rivals and I loved it.
Andrew: Right. Well now, everyone keeps asking why Emma – Hermione and Slughorn are in the same and this happened once before too.
Eric: They have no one else to put with Slughorn or Hermione.
Jamie: It’s true, yeah.
Eric: Actually though, that’s kind of rival-ish because in book 6 – if you remember, Hermione is trying to – she doesn’t approve of Harry cheating in potions, and so she tries to set an example for good potion making, but he always bests her.
Andrew: Oh, all right.
Eric: And she wants to get in to the Slug Club, but she’s not allowed.
Andrew: Oh, yeah.
Jamie: Or it’s all to do with posters and how to best make use of the space and Slughorn is fat…
Eric: [laughs] Exactly.
Jamie: …And Hermione is quite skinny. So maybe that’s it.
Matt: Well Hermione always tries to strive for the best, and Slughorn always picks the best.
Eric: Speaking of, and that’s a good correlation Matt – Slughorn’s uniform at the exhibit. Aw, it’s amazing.
Eric: Anyway, we’ll get into that later.
Andrew: What else is going on Micah?
News: Half-Blood Prince Premiere Dates
Micah: There are a couple of key dates set for the premiere of Half-Blood Prince, tentatively though.
Micah: July 6th in Japan, July 7th in the U.K., and July 8th in the U.S. Now some smart math people may notice that that’s three consecutive days of premieres.
Micah: So, it would beg the question: What does that mean for the actors who are going to be attending each one?
Jamie: It means they are going to get to fly around the world in an awesome jet.
Andrew: In three days.
Jamie: Ruin the environment. Get awesome food and free stuff. I’m not…
Andrew: And waste a lot of money.
Matt: You joke, but it might actually happen that way.
Jamie: There is nothing to worry about then.
Andrew: Yeah. I think it is worrying because we always see the most actors at the U.K. premiere because they all live in the U.K., that’s fine. But what about the trio are they going to be at all of three or what, and on top of that the – well, never mind.
Jamie: That was a good point.
Andrew: No, I was going to say the junket was going to be around these days too. How are they going to fit that in on top of three premieres?
Andrew: I just think it is silly, why bother cramming it all into three days?
Jamie: Why is that what’s happening then? July is the start of the movie season. Is there other stuff coming out around then?
Andrew: Well the only thing I could think of…
Matt: Yeah the Transformers is coming out around then.
Jamie: Oh yes!
Andrew: [laughs] The only thing I can think of is that they are also filming movie seven around this time.
Jamie: Well maybe, yeah, yeah.
Andrew: Are they trying to knock out all the publicity for a week, in a week? That may make sense.
Andrew: Who knows, but you know?
Matt: It is certainly strange, nothing about this movie has ever been, by the book…
Andrew: [laughs] Normal, yeah that is really true.
Matt: And it also seems like all the hype is going towards the U.K. premiere more than the U.S. one.
Matt: Well, like all the contests and stuff, yeah.
Jamie: But why Japan? It never has happened first there before has it?
Matt: Well, it is always big in Japan, though.
Jamie: But not world premiere is it?
Andrew: Right, yeah that is going be the world premiere. And last time for the Order of the Phoenix only Dan and David Heyman were there. Odd, very odd.
Jamie: That is odd.
Andrew: Strange times, strange times.
Jamie: You are going to have to fly out to Japan with your HD handy-cam.
Andrew: I know, I know the life of me, how am I going to do that?
Jamie: I want one now, I found my old one and it just doesn’t really – oh, when I first got it was my baby and now it’s nothing.
Andrew: Not even POS?
Jamie: It’s not even HD, what is the point?
Andrew: [laughs] What is the point especially when YouTube can do HD.
Jamie: Exactly, and my camcorder can’t?
Andrew: Jaime and Eric speaking of Half Blood Prince, the trailer, we haven’t heard your guys’ thoughts on the trailer, new one that came out. Eric how about you first, what were your thoughts on…
Eric’s Thoughts on the Trailer
Eric: Yeah, I thought it was cool, I wish they would stop showing every scene from the movie in these trailers.
Andrew: What do you mean?
Eric: Even if it just a one second clip; they are trying to be new and exciting. Maybe they are over compensating.
Jamie: I don’t think it is that though, I think they are trying to get everyone to see one bit that they really, really like. Do you know what I mean? If you think that every scene in this book appeals to a certain Harry Potter fan so they like, see it in the trailer and they are like, “Oh my God, Oh my God, Oh my God my favorite bit’s in!” So if you can get everyone’s favorite bits in then everyone goes to see it.
Andrew: That’s true.
Jamie: Psychology 101.
Andrew: Yeah, that’s a good point.
Matt: But at the same time they have shown the whole damn movie.
Jamie: Well, yeah, yeah that’s true.
Matt: I mean – kind of. But at the same time, I thought it was cool. They show Harry meeting with Dumbledore in the Underground which is kind of a different scene.
Jamie: That was cool, that was cool.
Eric: Yeah, it’s cool, it’s cool.
Andrew: Jamie, overall, your thoughts, positive?
Jamie’s Thoughts on the Trailer
Jamie: I thought it was awesome, I watched it with my girlfriend, and she is not a Harry Potter fan at all, yet. I am going to try and convert her, and she said that it looked like a film, and I think a big complaint about previous Harry Potter trailers is that they just look like Harry Potter-ish. But this looks like it could appeal to any film goer.
Andrew: Yeah, you know what? I made mention of that on our trailer show a couple weeks ago…
Andrew: When you see the shots of the non – when you see shots of the Muggles in London, I think it opens it up to a new audience and they feel like it is more of a film.
Jamie: Yeah, I agree completely, I thought it was just awesome. I felt like it was so like, clean. Do you know when you watch a film, for as an example when you watch the Dark Knight and the screenplay is so clean, it is like there is no extra, and that trailer just looked clean, do you know what I mean, like there is no stuff they felt they had to put in.
Andrew: Those guys that make the Harry Potter trailers are some of the best. You really can’t compare those trailers to anything else.
Micah: That’s true, yeah.
Matt: They are always the best too, out of all the trailers you see. Honestly, they are always the best trailers of the year.
Jamie: That’s true yeah.
Andrew: Are you saying that because you are a fan?
Andrew: There might be someone out there who is a fan of the Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants fan and they might think that that trailer is the best trailer of the year.
Matt: Honestly, even if you don’t, the people that see the trailers aren’t even fans of the books, or anything and they see those trailers and they just think they are epic.
Jamie: It’s true, yeah, yeah.
Andrew: I think we are talking production wise too. Because production wise it looks great.
Jamie: It does.
Matt: It is nice and fluid and it really does tell a story when the full theatrical trailers are released.
Andrew: Yeah. I would be happy to say that the Sisterhood of Travelling Pants trailer is amazing if it actually had good production value.
Jamie: Does it actually exist? Oh it does, oh my God.
Andrew: The movie does, yeah.
Jamie: …I thought you were making something up.
Micah: Well, I think Andrew and Matt both see enough movies that they could certainly – especially Matt – can comment on – you know, how good the trailer is.
Jamie: No, no, no, no. Sorry, I was going to say – I just Wikipedia’ed that. How the hell did that get published?
Andrew: [laughs] The movie? I don’t know, but I don’t think it did well.
Matt: Well, they made a sequel, so…
Andrew: Yeah, that’s right, yeah.
Jamie: Sorry, sorry, I mean, how?
Matt: Netflix it, man. Tell us how it is.
Jamie: No way, I’m not wasting my money…
Matt: It’s definitely a guy’s movie. [laughs]
Micah: [laughs] Think of all the economic problems in the world, and they’re making movies about this.
Jamie: Yeah, that’s true, that’s true…
Jamie: I think we’re doomed.
Andrew: Okay, well, what else is going on, Micah?
News: Deathly Hallows Filming
Micah: There’s lots of filming going on for Deathly Hallows.
Micah: A little bit in London occurred a few weeks ago in Piccadilly Circus, and then Shell Cottage has been getting a lot of press in the last few days. It looks like they’re putting the last finishing touches on the cottage on the beach, so…
Micah: What do you guys think of this? There was a lot made of the filming going on in London in particular and it looks like…
Micah: …probably in the next few weeks they’re going to be filming the Shell Cottage scenes.
Andrew: Yes. I think it was really exciting to see them filming right in central London and them doing these night-time shoots but these poor actors – I don’t know…
Jamie: Andrew, you’ve got to stop being sorry for them. They’re loaded.
Matt: They get paid.
Andrew: I mean – you look at these pictures and they’re all falling asleep! They’re all yawning – of course, the paparazzi loves to take photos of that, but…
Jamie: Oh, yeah.
Andrew: Maybe, you know, take a nap during the middle of the day so you’re a little more prepared for this. [laughs]
Matt: It was probably cold that night or something. Because, you know, when it’s cold, you get cold or – you get sleepy.
Jamie: [laughs] You get cold?
Matt: You get sleepy!
Andrew: You get sleepy…
Matt: Yeah, but, man, these – I really got excited when I saw them, especially when you saw a little action shot of Emma running.
Andrew: Yeah. Yeah, it looks good…
Matt: In the red dress. Because when I read the movie – or read the book – I was just thinking about how this was going to look in the movie.
Eric: Well, I didn’t know – I had no idea where they were – you know, Tottenham Court Road or wherever. I didn’t know that was so central in London.
Andrew: I don’t think they were actually at Tottenham Court Road, but they were nearby.
Eric: So they just walk through the central London to get there? [laughs]
Andrew: They were in the Piccadilly Circus area. I don’t know – you know.
Jamie: How the hell do you film there? That’s so weird.
Andrew: They close off some streets.
Jamie: But, like, that’s so biased. Just because they’re big shots, they close off streets…
[Andrew and Micah laughs]
Jamie: If I was to go there and say, “I’m filming a film with my non-HD handy cam…”
Andrew: Jamie, this is not the first time a film crew has filmed on…
Andrew: …the streets before.
Jamie: I know, but…
Andrew: They do this all the time. It’s going to be great! Imagine seeing the actual – you know – street.
Jamie: Yeah, that would be cool. That would be cool, yeah.
Jamie: I have some – well, my friend who I’ve known since kindergarten told me that he got a walk-on role in Harry Potter. I don’t know, he isn’t a fan at all, but…
Jamie: …His girlfriend does something to do with it, and he says that someone told him that it’s actually in the film, you know, it’s not like…
Andrew: Which film? Movie 7?
Jamie: No, no. Six, six.
Andrew: Oh! Oh, that’s awesome!
Jamie: Yeah. So, I don’t know if he’s actually going to be in it but he could be in the background. I’m going to…
Jamie: Yeah, it’s weird.
Andrew: Keep an eye out. [laughs] He’s weird?
Jamie: No, no, he’s fine, but…
Eric: Talking about filming location. It reminds me of what they did in Tower Bridge for The Mummy Returns…
Eric: …that they actually filmed there. That’s cool.
Andrew: Oh, yeah. But, yeah, and then with Shell Cottage they’re filming along a beach in Pembrokeshire, I believe it is.
Andrew: What? Pembrokeshire.
Jamie: Missed your pronunciation?
Andrew: How do you pronouce it, Jamie, please enlighten me?
Andrew: [in English accent] Pembrokeshire.
Andrew: Well, whatever. You call a router “rooter,” so…
Jamie: No – well that’s true, yeah. But also, also, I first thought that your town where you live was “Placenta.”
Andrew: Right. But that’s just a spelling thing. It’s “Placentia.”
Jamie: See, yeah, that’s true.
Andrew: But, yeah, Shell Cottage…
Matt: Cultural differences.
Andrew: …it looks really nice because the roof is just lined with seashells. And it’s a really nice touch – it looks really – I mean – that’s going to be beautiful. They’re filming right on that beach, and it’ll be really cool.
Matt: It’s going to be a really good scene for Dobby’s death.
Eric: Oh, Clemence. Oh, Clemence.
Andrew: Speaking of that, there was another article, Micah, where Dan Radcliffe and David Heyman – they were talking about filming – you know – outside of Hogwarts.
Micah: Yeah, it was in Empire magazine and Dan made note of the fact that filming the first part of Deathly Hallows is refreshing because it’s set in a lot of other places aside from Hogwarts, so apparently he doesn’t like filming at Hogwarts. That’s what I’d take away from it.
Jamie: That is true, that is completely true. It must be tough. It’s like in Phone Booth, you know?
Jamie: They must just like close the street for a year to film that.
Eric: Well then again, it’s not like Hogwarts is one set. I mean…
Andrew: Yeah, there are a few sets.
Eric: …surely there are different – not only locations, but then when you do a special room like the Chamber of Secrets on a sound stage you get around, but surely not as much as this, I guess. I don’t know.
Andrew: When I read that quote it really hit me. Like, “Oh wow, this first part of this film really is going to be hardly at Hogwarts.” And it’s going to be really exciting to see a Harry Potter film without the typical sets and scenes that we’ve all gotten so used to.
Eric: But I hope it’s more of Hogwarts than was in the book though. I hope they show what everyone else is doing.
Andrew: Yeah definitely.
Eric: I can’t shake that feeling. I really want to see if they show – even in a montage maybe.
Andrew: Well hopefully the screen writer considered keeping it in there, but you know Potter fans are Potter fans, they just want to see the actual story so…
Andrew: And what else did they have to say in Empire Magazine?
Micah: Yeah, Dan also mentioned he’s looking forward to filming the walk that he takes into the Forbidden Forest to meet Voldemort.
Jamie: How are they going to film that though? That’s going to be weird.
Eric: We have pictures of that, don’t we?
Andrew: Yeah, it is.
Eric: Don’t we have any pictures?
Andrew: No, well there were some paparazzi photos of him walking through a forest, but we don’t know if it was that actual scene…
Andrew: …where he’s going to meet Voldemort.
Matt: There are a lot of scenes where he walks to the lake or something?
Andrew: Yeah, it may be something like that.
Jamie: But how’s it going to be? Because I always imagined it was going to be like Frodo climbing up Mount Doom. That kind of no dialogue, you know just music in the background, you seeing everything happen, and he just walks into the forest and then suddenly everything closes into a point and then the dialogue comes back and Voldemort’s like, “Harry.”
Matt: Yeah. That would be really intense if they just had no music and nothing and all you heard is just him walking.
Jamie: Yeah, that would be cool.
Andrew: Yeah, that’d be awesome.
Eric: Well with all the ghosts gliding around him.
Andrew: Right, right.
Jamie: Yeah, that would be cool. That would be awesome.
MuggleCast 174 Transcript (continued)
News: Deathly Hallows Split
Andrew: Yeah, I have faith they’re going to get this right. And later on in this Empire interview David Heyman talked about the split – where they’re going to split it and this was a really interesting quote. He said, “We’ve played around with a couple of places and ultimately settled on a place that we think is very exciting, and I think quite bold in that it’s not necessarily where one might expect. You want to give a sense of completion on one hand, but a sense that there’s another piece, more to come. We tried one and then Steve Kloves, the screen writer,
came up with the idea to try it another way, and when we tried that it just felt right.”
Jamie: So he hasn’t actually given us any information on where it’s going to be?
Matt: No. They’re going to kill us with this.
Jamie: Yeah, that’s true.
Matt: They really are.
Andrew: And we probably won’t even hear about it until the movie is actually released. I would imagine they want to keep that top secret, right?
Matt: I really hope it does keep a secret. I want to be surprised.
Eric: Yeah, you want to be surprised but you know everyone’s going to ask that. “Where is going to be split? Where is going to be split? Where is going to be split?”
Andrew: But I mean they could cover it up if they really tried.
Matt: Yeah, well I mean also though an employee from Warner Brothers might leak it. I mean it has happened.
Eric: There’s a budget and you have to figure out if they decided to purchase a few days filming time inside where they’re filming Malfoy Manor or not and boom you have…
Eric: …where they’re cutting it…
Andrew: …but they are filming it everything all at once. Parts one and two so…
Eric: Oh, right. Okay.
Andrew: It may be harder. But Dan also added that it’s a very tense cliff hanger. But I’m happy to see that they tried a non-traditional way, so maybe it’s not going to be at the Malfoy Manor.
Matt: Well I think what Heyman was talking about like it’s not one where one would expect.
Matt: I think it’s basically him just turning down all the rumors that everyone’s talking about as Shell Cottage and Malfoy Manor.
Matt: Because those seem to be the most popular ones that everyone is talking about.
Matt: So he may be saying, “No, no, no…”
Jamie: Yeah, but…
Matt: “… that’s not it.”
Jamie: …if it’s not linear – you know it has to follow some type of linear pattern because you can’t have a half an hour first film and then a six hour second film, you know.
Andrew: Well, right.
Eric: So you’re saying they won’t stop after the Seven Potters?
Eric: It’s not just going to be the first movie.
Andrew: That would suck.
Matt: I mean to be honest we’re all going to know what happens after the cliff hanger anyway.
Andrew: It’s not going to be so much of a cliff hanger for everyone who knows the book story, but I think they can pull it off where…
Jamie: It is for other people, yeah.
Andrew: Yeah, it is for other people, and even us a little bit.
Eric: Well yeah, because we want to see how they capture it. Like…
Andrew: Yeah, exactly.
Matt: It might be like – I’m trying to think of some kind cliff hanger and maybe it might be like the showdown between McGonagall and Snape before Snape…
Jamie: Yeah but that’s only important for like, fans of the books.
Matt: Yeah, I don’t know.
Jamie: Wait, for other people it would just be two old people looking at each other.
Eric: Yeah. And then on the other hand – are you calling Alan Rickman old?
Jamie: No, no, but in the films Snape’s not exactly in his first flush of youth.
Eric: Anyway, the – what was I going to say? But then, on the other hand say that they’re going to actually be able to keep in a lot more of what was in the book because of all this extra time they have now.
Matt: Yeah, that’s right. That’s really nice.
Eric: It’s really confusing.
Andrew: It’s really good to hear though, because knowing they’re going to take their time with this, they’re going to put in everything they need to have a great final send off. It really is a win-win. Warner Brothers makes a ton of extra money off an eighth film, and we get to see more from Book 7.
Jamie: Yeah, but don’t you think like the bigger they set themselves up, the harder they can fall if they screw it up? Like if…
Andrew: Oh definitely.
Eric: Technically. But have you hated Harry Potter movie, Jamie? Is there a Harry Potter movie you just can’t stand?
Jamie: Well, I don’t want to incriminate myself, but…
Eric: You’re pleading the fifth.
Jamie: Yeah, exactly.
Andrew: But I mean, they really, they know what they’re doing at this point and I trust them. I trust…
Jamie: Well, that’s nice.
Eric at the Exhibition
Andrew: …my Warner Brothers. [laughs] Okay and lastly in the news talk this week, it’s not so much as news, but the Harry Potter Exhibition did open. So, well, that part’s news. But Eric got to check it out in an exclusive fan site preview. He went on behalf of MuggleNet. And Eric, tell us all about it. I know Micah has questions written up too, and we’ll throw some questions at you, but can you give us the general overview first? What did you think of this? How great was it?
Eric: It was really great. It truly was really great. The Harry Potter Exhibition, it’s here until the end of September actually, it’s here in Chicago. And it just opened up last Thursday. We went Wednesday, some of the web site heads. Like it was me from MuggleNet, Jeff from HPNF, and a few other people from a few other sites, but it was a lot fun. We were in there for an hour long, we got an hour. But you could easily spend an hour and a half in there. And it’s this, pretty much this collection of props and they’re all arranged – and costumes and stuff – and all arranged in this really themed and scenic way. And well it’s an exhibition. What else can you say? Except that it’s really awesome. It’s a great experience, it’s set up well and it’s just absolutely incredible.
Micah: Is it tour guided? Or can you spend as much time there as you want?
Eric: You can spend as much time there as you want, yeah. There’s a bit in the beginning where you get sorted and they have a Brit who they hired to do that.
Andrew: Jamie, you should’ve gotten that job.
Matt: You really should.
Jamie: I should’ve applied, that would have been cool.
Eric: Yeah, it would’ve been cool. You always have a place to stay in Chicago. But…
Eric: …yeah, it was a really good experience it was awesome. And, we’ll get to the questions and whatever, but I have to say that you guys have to see it. I can’t see…
Andrew: I’m dying to.
Eric: I can’t see why it wouldn’t go to LA which we’ll also talk about later and I have reason to believe. But they won’t release yet exactly where they’re going next after this, that’ll come soon.
Eric: But yeah, overall it was an exhibit group, Giltspurs is the name that organized it, Warner Brothers Consumer Products and the Museum of Science and Industry which is where it’s held. They built this extra sort of facility onto the building in order to house the exhibition which was really cool.
Matt: That’s really cool.
Micah: So you mentioned the Sorting Hat before. Do they sort everyone, or are they going to sort everyone? Or is that just something specific to your tour that you got?
Eric: Yes, everyone in terms of visitors – it was basically only volunteers they sorted. In our group of ten or twelve, they sorted two of us. And it was only because we volunteered.
Andrew: Did you get sorted?
Eric: Yeah, well I got sorted.
Andrew: What house were you in?
Andrew: Oh, of course. Yeah.
Matt: Of course.
Andrew: What kind of questions did they ask?
Eric: Like, what do you mean, questions?
Andrew: Well, how’d you get sorted? Like, what happened?
Andrew: Oh, [laughs]. I see.
Matt: [laughs] Duh.
Eric: Magic, Andrew. No but the Sorting Hat, the voice of the sorting hat from the movies and stuff – it was really realistic and fun. And it was adaptive too, like. Yeah, it was magic.
Andrew: That is pretty cool. I like how they have interactive elements there. Like,
what other ones were there? The mandrake pulling? Like, how did that work?
Eric: Well and that’s the other thing too. Is that they have interspersed through these costumes and props which in themselves…
Eric: …are so exciting to just see. I never thought I’d be so enthused to see something.
Eric: It’s because of the detail that goes into it which is incredible. But interspersed with that, there were these hands-on – literally hands-on – parts of the museum, which were really cool. So they had, after you get sorted, the next one would be the mandrakes that you get to, in the order this tour was set up. Basically there’s a Herbology table with some of the old Herbology stuff – no earmuffs though…
Eric: …and Professor Sprout’s costume. Basically there’s a sign that says, “Please Pull” and there’s these mandrakes that are in pots and you just yank them and they come out fully formed and start screaming. They’re really life-like. It’s pretty exciting.
Micah: Reading through your review, there was one part where you said there were artifacts that – there are many artifacts beyond the entry point – it kind of left you believing that you left some of them out in your review?
Micah: What else was there that you maybe didn’t touch on in your review?
Eric: In the review? Okay, good. There were – well, first of all, there were a lot of portraits that were A) portraits or B) TV screens so they were animated portraits.
Matt: Oh, that’s cool.
Andrew: Did they talk?
Eric: I didn’t want to say, “Oh, by the way, they were TV screens.” You guys won’t know what I’m saying unless I say that, but animated portraits, which of them there were a few. There were a few of them. They were exciting. The Fat Lady is also right when you come in.
Matt: Which Fat Lady?
Eric: The Fat Lady?
Andrew: THE Fat Lady.
Matt: There’s two!
Andrew: The Gryffindor.
Eric: Yeah, the Gryffindor portrait.
Matt: The one from Prisoner of Azkaban or the one from Sorcerer’s Stone?
Andrew: Oh, that’s irrelevant.
Matt: I was just wondering!
Eric: It’s the one from Prisoner of Azkaban.
Matt: Ah! Okay.
Eric: They have her. You can actually walk through the door, the portrait-hole thing. It’s actually just around the frame they have her on, but it’s cool anyway.
Andrew: So what are these, I saw a video of it and it really does look amazing.
Eric: You saw a video of it?
Andrew: Of the exhibit.
Eric: Oh, by USA Today?
Andrew: Yeah yeah, that one.
Eric: Oh, I didn’t get that. That one wouldn’t play for me. But I was there so.
Andrew: But, yeah, it just looks so well done. It looks really impressive. What did the designers have to say? How much work went into designing it? Was it the exhibition people who did most of that or was it Warner Brothers or what? Do you know?
Eric: Yeah, the exhibition people did it and Warner Brothers came in when it came time to decide specifically which props they would be getting and the – actually, let me get my press materials book because they gave us like ten thousand facts about the exhibit. It’s awesome!
Andrew: What kind of effort went into the designing process?
Eric: Yeah, the effort. Well, basically, one of the reasons they gave it in Chicago was that the Museum of Science and Industry was willing to build this customized area.
Eric: Basically, this is the first stop on a tour that will be going for like five years. This exhibit is going to be going around the world, so it will be international, for like five years. So in order to make sure they had everything right, they needed this flexible working space. You know, to see if – because one of the tallest set pieces is the chess piece.
Andrew: Oh wow.
Eric: Like the chess pieces from Sorcerer’s Stone. They’re going to switch some of them out they said later, but the rook – I think, yeah, we saw the pawn and the rook – but the rook is like nine feet tall.
Jamie: That’s insane.
Eric: Think of the detail too, because…
Andrew: That’s amazing though.
Andrew: It’s so great they found something to do with all of these items because otherwise…
Eric: Well, exactly! Because otherwise, they’d just be in a shed somewhere. Okay, so basically they just came up with this living space and this exhibit was, I guess, how they wanted it. The whole collaborative effort between these Giltspur people and Warner Brothers. They described it as ideal and very co-creative and exciting for everyone involved.
Exhibition: Audio Tour
Micah: You mentioned at the end of your review that there’s a tour, an audio tour that can be had with David Heyman and David Yates. Was this not implemented in the exhibition when you went?
Eric: Yeah, we checked in at a desk downstairs and did this thing and the way I understood it, I guess if we asked we may have been able to – it was ready, because the museum was premiering the next day but none of us got the audio tour. And what it is, its certain set pieces in the exhibit have a commentary track just like you would at any museum audio tour, listening in and some of them are – what they did is they compiled an audio track with comments from David Yates, David Heyman and some
of the other film makers and set designers, all that kind of stuff and made it into this audio tour which you can take with you when you view the exhibit. I think that would’ve probably taken up more time than what we had…
Eric: We had an hour because we had to get to the Round Table afterwards so yeah…
Eric: …they didn’t offer any of us the audio tours, but it is incentive to come back. [laughs]
Andrew: Now, what – did they record all that stuff for the exhibit or is it clips from past interviews?
Eric: No, no, no, it is just for the exhibit.
Andrew: Oh, that’s awesome. You can probably learn a lot from that.
Eric: Yeah, yeah. Actually the guy who was at the – hang on a sec, I have his name – yeah Eddie Newquist who is the President of the exhibit group, Giltspurs Branded Entertainment – he was the guy on the Round Table representing them and he said that they actually went to Leavesden Studios probably even during filming of one of the movies, probably six – yeah wouldn’t be seven yet. And they asked for certainly some commentary, like they said, “We’ll just take an hour or two of your time if we can.”
and it turns out they were there for like a day or two, gathering all this insight because the filmmakers…
Eric: …were all that enthusiastic and supportive. Yeah, so I haven’t listened to it but apparently the audio track is something that is really cool.
Andrew: That is pretty sweet. That’s a good reason to come back a second time because I’m sure a lot – the first time you go you may not want to have to listen to that audio track thing, so, that’s cool.
Exhibition: Future Items
Micah: Any plans to add to this? I mean with Deathly Hallows you just said it’s going to be around for five years. Did anyone ask if they are going to add to this exhibition as it moves across the world?
Eric: Yes. They are.
Andrew: Across the world.
Eric: Yeah. They’re going to be adding and taking pieces, mostly adding from what I get, or at least from what they said because of the new movies as you say. So it will be a changing exhibit with new set pieces as they become available. They already had some stuff from movie six; Ron’s Quidditch outfit and Slughorn’s outfit as well and some Wanted posters for the Carrows and Bellatrix and all that stuff that’s from the sixth movie so that was really awesome to see. And it’s in there, you know just with the rest of the stuff so it’s like this whole, entire complete collection, happy family.
Andrew: Well, thanks Eric, for that. It sounds like a lot of fun and I hope it comes to L.A.
Eric: Yeah. Well about that…
Andrew: And in case anyone is wondering – what?
Exhibition: Future Stops
Eric: About that. They haven’t released yet, officially, where they’re going next…
Eric: But I’ve been looking at this – this press packet here and also in other publications in the newspapers and stuff…
Eric: And they slate Chicago as the only mid-west U.S. location of this tour.
Eric: And so I guess that that is official.
Andrew: So they’ll go west, and they’ll go east and they’ll go south. Presumably.
Eric: No, they won’t go south. Because if you go south of the mid-west you’re still in the mid-west, in my opinion.
Andrew: well I mean Florida or something.
Eric: Oh, yeah, yeah…
Andrew: South, south…
Eric: Right, right. I mean what doesn’t L.A. have?
Matt: I’m so confused.
Eric: Besides Equus. What doesn’t L.A. get?
Eric: So I think L.A. will definitely get this. I’m inclined to say New York but at the same time, when it goes somewhere it is there for three or four months and surely the international fans will get pissed if it just stays in the U.S. for like a year.
Andrew: Yeah. I mean I think they’re going to bring it through all the stops in the U.S. first because it must cost a lot of money to bring it overseas, so…
Eric: Yeah that is the other thing too…
Andrew: …it’s not like they’ll travel back and forth.
Eric: …but they’ve already started – they’ve already done that with starting in the middle of the country. If you go west, you have to go east. Say they wanted to go to LA…
Andrew: Yeah but you got to start somewhere.
Eric: Yeah, yeah.
Andrew: I mean, they probably want to start in the U.S. first, for some reason.
Eric: Well it makes sense to me that they’d hit New York, go over to London…
Andrew: Right, right. Well maybe scheduling conflicts. Perhaps, but yeah I’m sure no museum is going to miss out on taking up an opportunity that would obviously bring in a lot of money I’m sure.
Eric: Yeah, geez. Absolutely. And you guys have to try the Quaffle Toss, that is my favorite part of the…
Andrew: Oh! I cannot wait.
Jamie: I bet you can’t.
Eric: One of those hands-on things.
Andrew: Well if anyone is interested in checking out the exhibition in Chicago, right at the top of MuggleNet on the homepage we have links to purchase tickets and also the official site and that goes to MSI Chicago and also HarryPotterExhibition.com site. Thanks Eric!
Announcements: Podcast Alley
Andrew: Moving on to – so that concludes our very long news segment, but moving along to the announcements this week, don’t forget to vote for us on Podcast Alley at the beginning of the month, like I said at the start of the show.
Matt: MuggleCast May!
Andrew: It is MuggleCast May, as everyone knows. You must vote for us every month that starts with May.
Jamie: I didn’t know this was still going on.
Jamie: Oh, it feels like old times again.
Eric: Does that bring you back Jamie?
Jamie: It does. I feel like I haven’t left.
Announcements: Transcript Update
Andrew: Also, Micah, you have a transcript update for us?
Micah: Yeah, just an update. We’ve been adding transcripts really a lot over the course of the last few weeks. Everyone’s doing a good job in terms of transcribing the past shows that we haven’t been able to get up over the course of the last few months so we’re catching up and everyone’s doing a good job, so be sure to check out the transcript page when you have a chance. We’re featuring a lot of the interviews we’ve done in the past. Jamie, since you haven’t been on the show, we’ve replaced you with Patrick Doyle and Mary GrandPre.
[Andrew and Jamie laugh]
Jamie: That’s an upgrade definitely.
Andrew: They’re regular hosts.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Andrew: Well, thanks Micah, for that and thanks to all the transcribers who have been working so diligently to get those completed and get those online. We really appreciate it as do our listeners who like reading what we say.
Announcements: Listener Tweets
Andrew: Our next segment is something new that we haven’t really done before. We’re taking questions from Twitter and just a generic title we’ll call it Twitter Question Mailbag and these…
Andrew: …were sent to us through our Twitter account at Twitter.com/MuggleCast – I know it’s not that original, but whatever.
Listener Tweet: Why Fred?
Andrew: So we got ten here and they’re about the books or movies and the fandom and our podcast, but we wanted to sort of open it up and discuss whatever the listeners wanted us to discuss. And this first one – it starts off – we’re starting off with a book question.
It’s from WestleyRose, and he says, “Why do you think Jo decided to kill off Fred instead of George? Did Jo have some sort of hatred of Fred that we don’t know about?”
Jamie: Maybe she just flipped a coin.
Jamie: Something like that.
Eric: Maybe she meant to kill George.
Jamie: Oh yeah. Maybe she screwed it up.
Andrew: I wonder why – I wonder why she did do that. Was there any specific reason or…
Matt: Well Fred was the most in the foreground of the twins.
Matt: And he was the most wittiest.
Micah: Yeah, well, plus George – didn’t he get his ear blown off earlier in the book? I mean, that would be kind of unfair.
Micah: I mean, you get your ear blown off and then you die.
Matt: It’s not the most level of punishments.
Eric: Well, which is worse? Getting your ear blown off and then dying, putting you out of your misery? Or getting your ear blown off and then having your brother die?
Matt: Either getting your ear blown off or being crushed to death?
Andrew: I’d rather be crushed to death.
Matt: I don’t know that’s…
Andrew: I need two ears for my iPod headphones.
Eric: Who would rather be crushed to death? Honestly, even if your ears blown off, you can still hear out of it, or at least one ear.
Matt: I know but you’d look weird the rest of your life, you look unbalanced.
Jamie: I thought it depended on the way it hit your ear and stuff. Or maybe I’m just being stupid because I remember reading somewhere that hearing depends on the way sounds hit your ear but I could just be really gullible. Somebody told me that.
Eric: No, no, you’re right. But at least he still has the other ear that he could hear out of. I mean, you’d rather be crushed to death than deaf in one ear? Really?
Jamie: What’s this crushed to death coming from?
Matt: No, I’d rather have one ear.
Eric: That’s what Matt said.
Jamie: Matt, you’re sick.
[Eric and Micah laugh]
Andrew: I’m reading a little interview from J. K. Rowling, actually with one of the hosts from the Today Show asked her about the Fred/George thing and she said, “I always knew it was going to be Fred. I suppose looking back I think that most people would have expected it to be George, I think, because that’s the ringleader. He’s always been the investigator. He’s slightly harder than George. George is slightly
gentler. Fred is normally the funnier, but also the crueller of the two. So they might have thought that George was the vulnerable one and therefore the one to die.”
Jamie: Maybe, yeah.
Andrew: And she went on to say that it wasn’t easier to kill Fred instead of George, so I don’t know.
Eric: Actually that kind of makes sense that Fred died because if he was the one who was making the more hurtful wise cracks, or making more jokes, he was the one who died with the smile on his face.
Andrew: Right, that’s true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Matt: That’s true. Aw, that’s so cute.
Andrew: So Jo didn’t totally answer it, but I wonder why she’s always known it would be Fred.
Andrew: It’s just a game to her or…
Micah: Maybe someone named Fred bullied her in school and that’s why she’s always known.
Andrew: “I will kill off Fred.”
Jamie: That would be so weird though if every character had done something like their fate to her.
Jamie: So George had like poked her in the ear or something.
Andrew: Right. Well we have heard that she has based some of her characters off of real life people.
Eric: As soon as she – she stopped saying that halfway in to the series because people kept claiming that they were the ones she…
Jamie: Oh, right, yeah.
Andrew: Oh, right. Right.
Matt: That would kind of stink though if you’re reading her books and she named one of the characters after you and then your character died.
Jamie: Yeah, that wouldn’t be nice at all.
Matt: Kind of like, “What? What did I do?”
Jamie: Especially, if you thought that she really liked you or something and then you died.
Listener Tweet: End of MuggleCast?
Andrew: [laughs] Yeah! Well, next question is from Jimmy. He says, “What will you talk about after the ‘Deathly Hallows’ films are released? Will the encyclopedia be enough to keep MuggleCast alive?”
Micah: Jamie, I think you should answer this…
Jamie: Ummm… I think the MuggleCast flame is eternal and can’t ever be extinguished.
Andrew: I do too. I do too. There will always be Harry Potter news.
Jamie: Just to avoid the issue.
Andrew: It’s just a question of how often these episodes will come out.
Jamie: That’s true, yeah. Exactly.
Andrew: So, the part two of Movie 7 comes out July 15, 2011, so…
Jamie: Man, that’s a long time away.
Andrew: …we still got – yeah.
Matt: That’s two more years.
Andrew: And by that time MuggleCast would have run for seven years, so – hey, a seven-year run is not that bad! I’ll take that.
Jamie: Yeah, but if we get there we should probably go for the full decade. We can’t really stop halfway there.
Andrew: That is true.
Eric: So I guess the answer to Jimmy’s question is – well, actually, he said, “Will the encyclopedia be enough to keep MuggleCast alive?” [laughs]
Andrew: Well, I hope the encyclopedia is out before 2011 – or July 2011. Don’t you guys think?
Jamie: I think.
Matt: Yeah. Definitely.
Jamie: Surely it’s less going to come down to what Harry Potter stuff there is…
Jamie: …than Andrew’s enthusiasm for editing shows, putting stuff out, stuff like that.
Andrew: [laughs] Just make a tech show, a MuggleCast tech show.
Jamie: Yeah! That’s what we should do, we should look at the latest technology. And Transformers and Wolverine and all these cool new films as well.
Andrew: Right… [laughs]
Eric: Yeah, the non-Harry Potter, Harry Potter podcast.
Matt: It’s never been done.
Andrew: Well, I just hope that the encyclopedia doesn’t come out in 2015 or something. I think she should do it around the movie hype.
Eric: Oh, give her time to realize that she misses it like crazy.
Listener Tweet: Cut from the Film
Andrew: Yeah, that’s true. [laughs] Next question from Walty: “What is your favorite book scene that was cut from the film?” I’m trying to think of any but it doesn’t bother me when scenes are cut.
Micah: Oh, here, I’ve got it.
Andrew: What, Micah?
Micah: I would – this is not really a scene, it’s more of a group of scenes. If you go back to Prisoner of Azkaban, the whole Marauder backstory…
Micah: …being cut from the films I think was the…
Andrew: Oh, yeah.
Micah: …big one for me.
Matt: I guess for me – I think one of the – the scene in Order of the Phoenix when Harry was taking his O.W.L.s and he showed up Professor Umbridge when he did his Patronus in front of her and he just kind of smirked at her and walked off.
Eric: I don’t remember that.
Matt: I thought that was funny. Yeah, it was when he was doing his O.W.L.s to one of the teachers and they said, “I hear you can do a Patronus.” And he goes, “Yes I can.” And then he does it and then he walks off…
Eric: Oh. That’s cool.
Matt: …and Umbridge was looking at him kind of sad.
Andrew: Yeah, well, and this sort of relates to what we were talking about with Movie 7 earlier. I think they have a lot – they do definitely have a lot of extra pressure and expectations are much higher to get everything right and get everything in.
Eric: Yeah, I mean…
Eric: …like what you said initially about not being that upset about cut scenes – with the exception of the Marauders in Prisoner of Azkaban and possibly Snape’s Worst Memory where we thought we were going to see more – yeah, I’m more interested in if they tell the story in an exciting way. You know…
Andrew: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: …in a way that fits everything that they’re doing and still surprises me a little bit. I guess I like to be surprised, but not too surprised. [laughs]
MuggleCast 174 Transcript (continued)
Listener Tweet: Harry and Potions
Andrew: All right, next question is from Lisa E.: “Do you feel that Harry continued to be brilliant at Potions or was it all left behind with the Potions book in the Room of Requirement?”
Jamie: I don’t think Harry’s ever going to be good at Potions.
Eric: That’s true.
Matt: Yeah. It wasn’t a trait that he did get from his mom.
Jamie: It’s true, yeah.
Andrew: I guess he wasn’t exactly – he probably didn’t feel the need to practice it after getting out of Hogwarts, so…
Jamie: Here’s a question.
Matt: Yeah, but he’s more – yeah?
Jamie: No, I was going to say, here’s a question. Do you think he’s setting a bad example or a good example to schoolchildren? Because he’s using his own initiative, he’s finding a book, he’s using other people’s advice, but then he’s not really doing it himself. But he’s succeeding so, you know – it’s a tough one.
Matt: Well, it is a pretty common human trait, though. I mean, a lot of people do do the same. It only proves that, you know, Harry isn’t…
Micah: He’s a cheater.
Matt: …like, the most perfect person. Well, whatever works, you know?
Jamie: Well, it’s true, yeah.
Andrew: Yeah. I don’t think it’s really setting a bad example because – you’re saying for people who read the story?
Andrew: Or people in the wizarding world? Yeah, I mean everyone’s been that situation where they’re cheating a little bit.
Jamie: Or really Andrew? We haven’t Oh my God what are you saying!?
[Eric and Micah laugh]
Andrew: Well, I cheat. I have an iPhone. I can’t help it.
Eric: Well, back to the Twitter question too – it’s not like Snape’s book was instructive in a way that allowed Harry to easily – more easily – to learn what it is he was doing. Basically Snape’s book was a book of short cuts. And a book of, you know, different ingredients that worked better and were slightly easier to concoct, you know, more efficient. So Harry wasn’t really learning the art of potions he was just learning how to make certain potions a better way and there was nothing that was instructive about what makes someone a better potions person. It was just a set of ingredients and ways he had to mix them.
Micah: He was just using the CliffNotes version of the potions book, basically.
Listener Tweets: Harry Potter Shipping
Andrew: Next question is from Jose Valencia: “What is everyone’s favorite slash coupling?” Oh.
Andrew: So we would all know, slash would mean the same sex.
Andrew: Ah, I think the biggest one has always been Sirius/Lupin and that’s my favorite.
Jamie: I agree.
Matt: It doesn’t have to be the same sex.
Eric: I’m with you on that one too, I think that’s…
Eric: It’s the most canon compliant maybe? That’s not why I like it.
Andrew: Jamie, do you remember the days – why do you like it then?
Eric: Actually that is why I like it.
[Andrew and Jamie laugh]
Jamie: Why? Because it’s compliant?
Andrew: It fits. I like it.
Eric: Actually yes. That is why I like it.
Andrew: Jamie, I don’t know if we ever said this on the show before but remember the days when we were going to plan a segment like that to discuss that?
Andrew: Have a discussion on that?
Eric: Yeah, I think I was 20 or something.
Jamie: Ages ago, yeah, yeah.
Matt: Oh God, that takes you back doesn’t it?
Jamie: Oh, I’m going to starting crying in a second.
[Andrew and Matt laugh]
Andrew: Well, it’s funny because actually we received an e-mail the other day suggesting that we do a discussion on that.
Jamie: Why? On that pairing? On Remus/Sirius?
Jamie: Well, we could do that, next show.
Eric: That reminds me – you were supposed to do the show notes for that show, Jamie. It was going to be the show about Remus and Sirius.
Jamie: Ahh, I don’t think I was. [laughs]
Eric: Yeah well I don’t think you were either because you didn’t but you said you were going to. We are all looking to you to do it.
Jamie: Oh, oops, oops.
Andrew: But then I said, I don’t think we should because I thought it was a little too inappropriate for our listeners. That was when I was in my, “Oh my God, we can’t say any curse words or anything.”
Andrew: What?! No. No!
Andrew: I’m saying that was in the days when I thought we should never curse and we should be very, very friendly – family friendly.
Andrew: All right, next question…
Matt: Wait, okay, you didn’t even asked Micah or me.
Andrew: I heard Micah say, “Yeah.”
Micah: To what? Is that what that means? That slash? I thought it was generally any coupling.
Matt: No, it was just a coupling, coupling generic.
Jamie: I thought that as well.
Andrew: Oh, I thought slash meant…
Eric: That’s just Andrew’s gay mind reading it.
Matt: It’s a shipping, like Ron/Hermione and Harry/Ginny.
Eric: Actually, actually…
Matt: It’s a shipping. I said shipping!
Eric: No, there is slash.
Andrew: Yeah, there is such a thing…
Eric: Because it’s in quotes.
Eric: It is in British quotes. Otherwise he would have just said, what’s your favorite coupling?
Andrew: Exactly. Or what’s your favorite ship?
Eric: So it is slash. That was the question. But on Twitter, there are so many slashes and dollar signs and…
Eric: …freaking numerical pages. “At” symbols.
Matt: Yes, there are.
Micah: That’s true.
Andrew: You never know.
Matt: Then I would say Dumbledore/Grindelwald.
Andrew: Ooh, oh yeah.
Micah: I would say Fleur/Hermione. And yes, I can make it up.
Eric: Yes, you can make it up.
Andrew: I think Ben would say that too. You should write that story.
Eric: Actually, I’m joining Micah’s ship.
Micah: Yeah, I – what’s that?
Jamie: That would be so cool if you became some famous erotic fiction writer.
[Andrew and Micah laugh]
Jamie: Your handle can be like Miss-something – I can’t think of something.
Andrew: That would be amazing.
Jamie: But that would be insane and if you made millions out of it and they had you on Oprah, and that would be so cool.
Listener Tweet: MPAA
Andrew: All right, next question is from soccermanic, something like that: “I just saw movie ratings and saw that the Terminator movie is rated PG-13, while all the other ones have been rated R. MPAA = laid back.”
Jamie: And that is what Twitter does to language nowadays. Look at that! It says “MPAA = laid b-a-k.” Oh my God.
Andrew: Well, you’re absolutely right.
Eric: Soccer man-nee-ac.
Andrew: It’s not helping writers.
Jamie: No, it’s not.
Andrew: Yeah, I don’t know. We did talk about it earlier, so we won’t spend time on it again.
Andrew: But it is pretty messed up. Next one comes from theweasleyclan. “After the Battle of Hogwarts, how or who do you think the trio
first shared their tale adventure with?” So the story got all wrapped up and then, who was the first, you know, group or person they told?
Micah: J.K. Rowling.
Matt: A publisher. Who said that?
Andrew: Or it could have been their best friends or the Weasleys – I can imagine them all going back to the Weasley house.
Jamie: Who’s going to believe it? Like…
Andrew and Matt: Well…
Andrew: They were all there.
Matt: Yeah. [laughs] They were all kind of there.
Eric: They wouldn’t tell Rita Skeeeter.
Jamie: So do you mean like, they talked about it? Like they talked about it…
Jamie: With each other?
Matt: Right, right.
Jamie: They were like, oh that was horrible that one bit, and…
Jamie: I bet they had one outman ship, like who had the worst time and then Harry just turns and went, I died.
Andrew: And Emma and Ron, er, Hermione and Ron went, oh…
Andrew: You win.
Jamie: In a way George actually didn’t have that bad of time.
Andrew: No, he just…
Eric: Had his ear blown off.
Andrew: Yeah. I’d rather die, than die and come back. I mean, you don’t want to see death and come back, do you?
Eric: Dude, this is like Christian – just stop…
Listener Tweet: 24 Hour MuggleCast – Hell Yeah!
Andrew: [laughs] All right, final two questions now. This next one is from Cameo Eric: “Would you be doing another 24 hour live podcast again?” Well, it was 12 hour, but…
Jamie: It was 12 hours, wasn’t it? And, Andrew? Your stamina was incredible. Half way through I was just like… [laughs]
Andrew: Well, you had time working against you. I mean it was late.
Jamie: Well, yeah, but, that is true, that is true.
Andrew: So, I don’t know if I have another 12 hours in me. I don’t think we can do it for MuggleCast. I think if we could do it for a general discussion for 12 hours we can definitely do it but, we couldn’t call it a MuggleCast 12-Hour Live Show.
Jamie: That’s true, because it wouldn’t be about Harry Potter.
[All talk at once]
Andrew: Yeah. I don’t know, maybe sometime we will attempt at something like that again, that can be fun. Well…
Matt: I actually wouldn’t mind doing it too.
Jamie: Oh, I have a thing to say here. Me and my girlfriend want to go travelling and do a project, like a charity project, so if people want to hear another podcast thing, because I know Mason did one with his charity, did he? Did he do one for his charity?
Andrew: Right. Yes. American Cancer Society.
Jamie: Yeah, that’s it. I would be up for doing a 24 hour thing trying to raise some money for charity and stuff.
Andrew: Oh, that’s cool. Oh yeah, if those plans turn into something more, let us know. All right…
Matt: Like a telethon.
Jamie: You what?
Andrew: You know, like a telethon.
Jamie: What do you mean like a telephone?
Andrew: It’s like you call in on a live show and people call in and…
Jamie: Oh, yeah, yeah.
Andrew: And have special guests.
Eric: Jamie, you could give them sex advice.
Jamie: No, no that’s Micah’s job now that he’s turning into an erotic fiction writer.
Andrew: I love how Jamie takes jokes said throughout the show and connects them all.
Micah: Brings them forward.
Yeah, I think that’s why people love Jamie so much because he connects…
Jamie: Aww, thanks!
Andrew: It’s beautiful.
Micah: Not because he has an accent, it has nothing to do with it.
Jamie: I love you too.
Listener Tweet: Azkatraz
Andrew: Well, last question is from DianaBow: “What are your plans for Azkatraz? How many of you guys are going to the midnight release there?”
Jamie: This makes me sad.
Eric: Time to break the news.
Andrew: I don’t think Jamie is going.
Jamie: I want to go.
Andrew: But we are going to have a MuggleCast meet up and we are going to have a – Eric are you going?
Eric: You know it’s not a midnight release anymore.
Andrew: Yeah, we are going to do it a few hours earlier. We still have to figure out that whole panel.
Eric: Yeah. So it might not be, I think it would be cool if it was still midnight, but there is no point. And not only because I’m upset with the W.B., but actually you guys, Azkatraz is at the mercy of the IMAX Theater at the moment.
Andrew: Yeah, exactly.
Eric: Because the IMAX Theater no longer has, or no longer will have a midnight show. So basically IMAX has to tell Azkatraz what time they can see the movie.
Eric: They are working on it. But yeah…
Andrew: It will be earlier in the night, we heard around 8 or 9 o’clock, so we would have the podcast after that.
Eric: I heard no sooner than 10, but at the same time the 10 o’clock show would get done at midnight and we would have the live podcast around 12:30 or so.
Matt: That – that sounds good.
Matt: Regardless we’ll still be at Azkatraz.
Eric: Anyways, I’ll be at Azkatraz. What about you guys?
Andrew: Yeah, I’m – all of us, the rest of us.
Andrew: Besides Jamie.
Micah: Whoa! Whose dogs are going to be there?
Eric: My dog won’t be but that’s him barking.
Andrew: [laughs] But we are also going to do a MugglCast meet up at Azkatraz where we just sit around talking with everyone and we will order pizza for everyone and it will be a lot of fun. Also we are going to have a “How to Podcast” thing. A couple of us, I’m going to wrangle…
Eric: It’s a cheap…
Andrew: On us who to podcast. No, it will be a fun little thing.
Micah: We don’t know how to podcast.
Andrew: Oh, I’m the master, I’m the podcast master.
Eric: How to strike it big! [laughs]
Andrew: Well, yeah that’s sort of what we could inform people too. And just one other thing – if you’re not going to Azkatraz – of course, now that the movie’s coming out a couple days beforehand, I thought we could do a live show on Ustream July 15th. So presumably everyone’ll go see it July 14th – the midnight release – so it’ll be the night of July 14th and then we’ll do one the following afternoon. And so that could be a fun way to interact with our listeners…
Eric: Not a bad idea.
Andrew: And I’m sure a lot of people would be down for that.
Eric: And plus seeing it in IMAX is a special thing altogether so it’s not like Azkatraz is not getting something special for us.
Andrew: Yeah, exactly.
Eric: But you know, because seeing it in IMAX is a big deal. I mean, I’m sure in L.A. they have IMAXs everywhere, but…
Andrew: Not everywhere. In the U.S. I mean.
Eric: Yeah, Yeah, so it’s a big deal, I think, still to me seeing it in IMAX.
New Segment: Audiofics
Andrew: Yeah, definitely. Oh yeah, it’s going to be awesome. So there was our Twitter Question Mailbag and that was fun, just going through a lot of random questions. Maybe we’ll do that again next time. Now here’s something else that we’re going to try, new for the first time. As a lot of people know we have the wonderful MuggleNet Fan Fiction at FanFiction.MuggleNet.com and they recently started something called audiofics and it’s basically a podcast, but every episode is a reading of a fan fiction, and the audiofic people came to us and said “Hey, can we get involved with MuggleCast somehow” too promote and all that, and I thought it’d be a great idea because in these days where we don’t have as much new to talk about with Harry Potter – let’s just face it – especially book-wise at least, something like this would work pretty well for the show. So, we selected a story for the first audiofic to be included here on MuggleCast and we’re about to play it for you now, but first here’s Rosey from Mugglenet Fan Fiction to tell you briefly about audio fictions and to intro the story, Rosey?
Rosey: Hi everyone, I’m Roxy Black from MuggleNet Fan Fiction and I’m here to tell you all about audio fictions. Since January we’ve been recording a selection of our favorite fan fictions from our very own authors and releasing them as a podcast known as audiofictions. Every episode contains a chapter or a full fiction from our archives and our team of mermuggles release new episodes, or chapters, on a near daily basis. If you don’t like reading stories on your screen you can now download our stories and take them away with you to listen to wherever and whenever you like. This story was released as Episode 11, and is read by the lovely Carrow and was written by Terry aka mudbloodproud. It’s called The Trials of a Best Man. Enjoy!
[Audiofic outro music plays]
Andrew: All right, so there’s our first Audiofic on the show. We’re interested to hear your feedback about it. We all really enjoyed the story, but we want to know what you think of – you know, what you thought of the story, and if you think it’s a good thing to have here on MuggleCast. And if you do, we’ll start including them more. Maybe if you thought it was too short, or it was too long, let us know. Send – go to MuggleCast.com, click on “Contact” at the top, and send in your feedback about that. All right, Jamie, here’s a segment now that people have been waiting for, for a long time to return.
The Triumphant Return: British Joke of the Day
Jamie: Oh, no!
Andrew: It’s called the “British Joke of the Day.” It’s been around since probably Episode 3 or 4 of MuggleCast, and here we are at the 174th episode…
Jamie: Oh, don’t say it like that.
Andrew: …and we’re dying to hear another British joke.
Jamie: Don’t say it like that. Well, I might have a few, but do you guys know what a blacksmith is? I don’t know if that’s a British term, or…
Andrew: Yes. No, it’s used over here, too.
Jamie: All right, all right. Well, why do I call my dog “Blacksmith?”
Andrew: Why is that?
Jamie: Because every time I kick him in the bum, he makes a bolt for the door.
Jamie: All right, here’s one, here’s one. My girlfriend told me this. It is – what’s the difference between a weasel and a stoat?
Matt: What is it?
Jamie: A weasel’s weaselly recognizable, and a stoat’s stoatally different.
Andrew: I like how your girlfriend laughed in the background.
Andrew: She cracked herself up.
Jamie: I like it, and I have one more, but this is not – this is weird. I got this online, maybe. Maybe. Maybe.
Jamie: Okay. A frog goes into a bank and approaches the teller. He can see from her nameplate that the teller’s name is Patricia Whack. So he says, “Mrs. Whack, I’d like to get a loan to buy a boat and go on a long vacation.” Patty looks at the frog in disbelief and asks how much he wants to borrow. The frog says, “Thirty thousand dollars.” The teller asks his name, and the frog says that his name is Kermit Jagger, his dad is Mick Jagger, and that it is okay because he knows the bank manager. Patty explains that 30,000 is a lot of money, and he’ll need to secure some collateral against the loan. She asks if he has anything he can use as collateral. The frog says, “Sure, I have this,” and produces a tiny pink porcelain pig about half an inch tall. It’s bright pink and perfectly formed (because that’s important). Very confused, Patty explains that she’ll have to consult with the manager and disappears into a back office. She finds the manager and says, “There is a frog called Kermit Jagger out there, who claims to know you and wants to borrow 30,000. He wants to use this as collateral.” She holds up the tiny pink pig and says, “What the hell is this?” And then the manager comes out and says, “It’s a knick knack, Patty Whack, give the frog a loan. His old man’s a Rolling Stone.”
Jamie: Thanks. Thanks. All right…
Andrew: All right…
Jamie: …I think I’m done with the jokes.
Andrew: Well, there we go Jamie, I think you’ve redeemed yourself for the long wait we’ve all had for another British joke.
Eric: Oh, that felt so good.
[Andrew and Eric laugh]
Chicken Soup for the MuggleCast Soul
Andrew: And we’re going to wrap things up today with a “Chicken Soup for the MuggleCast Soul,” and Matt’s going to read it.
Matt: Okay, this episode’s “Chicken Soup for the MuggleCast Soul” comes from Esther, 14, from Comstock Park, Michigan, and she writes:
“Dear MuggleCasters, I have what I hope you will use as a ‘Chicken Soup for
the MuggleCast Soul’ on your show. I am an avid listener of both MuggleCast and the Leaky Cauldron‘s podcast, PotterCast. I love your show, and really appreciate what you do. I am the ultimate ‘Harry Potter’ geek. Therefore, I get a lot of teasing and weird looks from my peers, especially when I talk about and express my feelings for the ‘Harry Potter’ books. I’m showing my genuine love for something that has made me who I am and brought me joy like nothing ever has, can, or will, and they tell me to my face they think that that’s stupid. Whenever I hear, ‘That’s so geeky,’ the sound of it causes agony like nothing but a thousand heartbreaks could cause. It makes me feel so alone, but then I can just pull out my iPod and hit ‘Play.’ Then I can hear your voices, and I am reminded that I am not alone, that there are people out there who understand, and who give me something that makes me laugh out loud, sometimes cry, and just give mature conversation (sometimes) that my friends and peers cannot provide. So thank you. Thank you so much. You are my one and only link to the ‘Harry Potter’ fandom, and I cannot express what you do for me on a daily basis. Thank you a thousand times over. Esther.”
Jamie: Okay, that brought it all back.
Andrew: Thank you, Esther.
Jamie: That brought it all back.
Andrew: That was a very nice – yes, there you go, Jamie. [laughs] That was a very nice email. Yeah, I admit, when I started out – when we started with the show, I was such a social outcast. I – oh my God…
Matt: You? Really?
Andrew: …I can’t even begin to tell you guys. Yeah. But the podcast really helped me become more social, and hopefully it can help others, too. And we’re glad to hear that it helps Esther…
Jamie: You weren’t a social outcast, were you?
Andrew: …talk to – listen to us. What’s that?
Jamie: You weren’t, were you?
Eric: He did his school’s – he did his high school’s news, man. I did that.
Eric: That makes…
Jamie: I did that as well.
Andrew: Hey – no! That’s – no. That has nothing to do with…
Andrew: I was – the most social I was, was in TV Tech. Those guys rocked.
Eric: TV Tech is cool.
Matt: Yeah. Yeah, everybody wants to be part of TV Tech.
Andrew: Steve Capella. Right, Jamie?
Jamie: Oh, yeah.
[Show music begins]
Andrew: You know him. Anyway.
Andrew: Well that wraps up our show today. We just want to remind everybody about our contact information before we let everyone go. If you’d like to call in to the MuggleCast hotline with a voicemail question, a comment, or a listener rebuttal, in the United States dial 1 218-20-MAGIC, and if you’re in the United Kingdom you can dial 0208 144 0677. You can also Skype the username MuggleCast to leave your message, but no matter how you do it, just remember to try to keep it under a minute and eliminate as much background noise as possible. Also on MuggleCast.com, we have a handy Feedback Form you can get to by clicking the “Contact” link, and you’ll see there you can contact any one of us. Or just use our first name at staff dot mugglenet dot com, and that’s the best way you can send in a rebuttal about today’s show. And don’t forget our community outlets: We have the Twitter at Twitter.com/MuggleCast, and you can also fan us on Facebook, vote for us once a month on Podcast Alley, and you can also visit us on our MySpace, YouTube, Frappr, Last.FM, and also the Fanlisting and the Forums at MuggleCastFan.net.
Jamie: That would have been cool if I’d been like, “Andrew, I’ll handle this,” and I’d have been like, “If you want to send…”
Jamie: I would have…
Andrew: That would have been very funny.
Jamie: …remembered everything.
Andrew: All right, for – well, thanks everyone for listening. Jamie, it was great having you back on the show.
Jamie: It’s been great to be back. I want to come on next time, if possible. Maybe?
Andrew: Oh, definitely. Definitely, yeah.
Jamie: All right, cool.
Andrew: And we’ll work on a good discussion for next time as well.
Jamie: All right, awesome.
Andrew: All right. Thanks everyone again for listening. I’m Andrew Sims.
Eric: I’m Eric Scull.
Matt: I’m Matt Britton.
Micah: I’m Micah Tannenbaum.
Jamie: And I’m Jamie Lawrence.
Andrew: Thanks everyone for listening, we’ll see you next time for Episode 175. Bye.
Eric: Bye. Good-bye now, good-bye. Good-bye now.
Micah: [laughs] Later.
[Show music continues]
Jamie: By the way…
Andrew: Let’s get right into it. What?
Jamie: Sorry, can I say quickly, I think this show…
Jamie: …could be epic, because it’s May the 4th, and do you remember that awesome Star Wars marketing thing that they had, when the film got released on May 4th, and they said, “May the fourth be with you”?
Andrew: Yeah, yeah, yeah!
Andrew: Everyone’s saying that on Twitter today. Today’s Star Wars day.
Jamie: Oh really?
Matt: It’s the Twitter trend.
Jamie: So, what’s happening with Twitter now? Is it actually huge? I’ve shunned it.
Matt: Oh yeah, it’s totally mainstream.
Eric: Google bought it, didn’t it?
Matt: No. I don’t think so.
Andrew: Rumoured to, but…
Jamie: Funny you should say that, because I just started reading this technology blog today that talked about that, and it said there’s no way Google’s going to buy it, because they can’t really spend a billion dollars when they still haven’t monetized YouTube and found out how to make huge amounts of money off that.
Andrew: Oh yeah, that’s true.
Matt: That’s true, yeah.
Jamie: We should buy it.
Eric: Didn’t they spend 2.5 million dollars on Twitter? I thought that they bought it, and that…
Andrew: Two point – no, no, no.
Jamie: 2.5 million? That’ll buy, like, [laughs] one of their servers or something.
Andrew: Yeah, that wouldn’t – yeah, Twitter’s going to go for a lot more than that. But anyway, let’s get into – [laughs] – that concludes today’s Tech Talk.
Andrew: Let’s save the exhibition thing for the end, because…
Micah: All right.
Andrew: …it’s sort of in the middle of the movie stuff.
Jamie: Can I add one thing in here? Ask a quick question to all of you?
Jamie: Have any of you seen Wolverine yet?
Andrew: Yes. It was fantastic.
Jamie: How good was it?
Andrew: It was top-notch.
Matt: It was all right.
Eric: It was fun to see, but I don’t think it was that well-made. It…
Matt: I kind of agree with that. Actually – no, I do agree.
Eric: It is not in the same league as X and X2, but…
Matt: X3, yeah. It’s definitely…
Eric: …I still enjoyed it. I did. But at the same time, I would enjoy anything with Hugh Jackman that lasted two hours, hopefully.
Andrew: Ohhh! Someone has a crush!
Matt: [laughs] You love Hugh Jamackan?
Micah: Or Hugh Jackman?
Eric: Hugh Jamackin?
Matt: Huge Jackman.
Eric: Plus, it was good to see Dom Monaghan again. After his…
Jamie: Yeah, that’s true.
Matt: Yeah! For like ten minutes, and then he get’s – oh, sorry.
Eric: And Kimi from Lost.
Matt: Micah, have you seen the movie yet?
Micah: I have not.
Eric: You should.
Matt: You should watch it.
Eric: Go see it.
Andrew: No offense guys, but we’re trailing way too off – way too far off topic.
Matt: Wait, are we even leaving this in the show?
Andrew: I don’t know. Well, I mean, it just takes up…
Eric: Do it. It’s randomness. But Jamie’s back, they’ll love it.
Andrew: All right.